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<!--QuoteBegin-Enemy on the Horizon By Franklin Van Valkenburg+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Enemy on the Horizon By Franklin Van Valkenburg)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I awoke with a sudden start. My hammock was rocking violently and the lantern in the corner of my sleeping cabin was squeaking loudly on it’s hook. I jumped out of bed and nearly fell as the deck lurched steeply. I pulled on my shirt and boots, grabbing my greatcoat as the dark cabin was suddenly filled with a bright flash of light. It was then that I heard the eerie sound of howling wind and smashing thunder from outside.
A squall.
I threw my door open and rushed out into the great cabin just as another flash of lightning filled the world with blinding light. I glanced out of the stern windows to see the most amazing sight. Monstrous waves and driving rain filled the my view. You could not distinguish where the sea and sky met. I then charged out of the cabin and up the hatch that led to the quarterdeck.
“Mr. Avery, how is she handling?” I shouted as I staggered over to him. He was drenched from head to toe and was holding a hand to his hat to keep it from being swept from his head.
“She’s answering the helm Sir!” he said with a grin, “But its getting mighty hard to keep on course!”
“Very well!” I nodded, “Lets just try and keep the <i>Odyssey</i> afloat. We’ll worry about staying on course when we’re commanding a seventy-four!”
Avery laughed as I looked aloft. The crew were already out on the yards, a hundred feet above the deck and angry sea. There was little to protect them, they only had a bit of line to tightrope on and were forced to cling to the yard as they feverishly clawed at the wildly flapping sails.
“So you’ve already ordered for the square sails to be taken in!” I shouted to Avery, “Very good! You shall be an excellent captain one day!”
Avery looked down at his feet then up again at the sails, “Thank you Sir!”
I strode past him and clapped a hand on his shoulder, “Lets get the rest of the hands below! I don’t want anyone to get in the way or get hurt!”
Avery began to relieve the extra crew of their duties and let them below decks as I did my best to stand upright by the compass stand. I attempted to read our heading but the dimly lit globe in which the compass was housed was covered with water beads and the glass was blurry with water as the rain came down in torrents. I tried to wipe the water from the glass bulb to catch a glimpse of the compass but to no avail.
There was another flash of lightning and I watched the whips of light blast through the violent sky. It broke off into dozens of jagged fingers and touched down in the water somewhere ahead of us. The world was lit like a candle would light a dark room, revealing a shadow off the starboard bow. What made me hesitate, however, was the fact that I almost thought that I saw sails against the darker world behind it. If there were sails there, I couldn’t tell how close they were, for there was no horizon to gauge it with. There was another flash and it was gone.
Shrugging it off, I worked my way over to the taffrail to check on Mr. Thompson.
“How is she running?” I bellowed.
“Making some thirteen and a half knots or so!” Thompson screamed above the din.
“Very good,” I smiled, “very good.”
I looked above at the yards and watched the crew slowly climb back down the ratlines. The Odyssey was finally under staysails alone which relieved me. At least I wouldn’t have to worry about ripping a square sail or cracking a yard.
“Sir!” Avery shouted, “The masthead saw something!”
I strode over to him, “What did he see?”
“Lights, Sir.” he bellowed, “Lights!”
Though he could not see it very well, I wore a confused expression, “What? What do you mean?”
“I don’t know what they are, Sir!” Avery said.
“Very well.” I returned, “Keep a sharp eye in the masthead.”
Avery nodded, “Aye Sir.”
“The wind is lessening, Mr. Avery,” I noted, “I shall be below. If there is anything that comes up, notify me immediately.”
Avery touched his hat as I ducked below and reentered my cabin. There was another flash of lightning and the cabin was lit with the eerie glow. I took down the lantern from it’s hook and struck a match. The match threw a golden light upon the lantern as I put it through the touch hole and lit the wick of the candle inside. The cabin was less dark as I put the lantern back up, yet still very strangely lit as the lantern swayed and cast dozens of shadows about the deck.
I leaned over the large table in the center of the cabin and leafed through the charts strewn upon it. I pulled a map of the Caribee Islands, a chain of small islands running South from Hispaniola, out of the pile and spread it on top. A couple of water droplets pattered down from a lose strand of hair onto the map and I quickly wiped them away and fetched a cloth. After drying my hair enough to keep it from ruining my charts, I took my dividers, spread them accordingly and began to measure the distance from our position an hour ago and factored in our speed. I sighed as the dividers marked a fifty mile radius. We could be anywhere to the East of the center point, North or South. When this squall died, I would have to put out a full spread of canvas to regain our course and time lost.
I stood straight and tossed the dividers down as I thought. It was then that I heard the cry from above and felt the <i>Odyssey</i> begin to heave to larboard. I threw the door open and ran back out on deck.
Avery was shouting orders and the ship was slowly turning as the bow plunged through the wild sea. I peered out into the darkness and searched for the reason Avery had ordered the <i>Odyssey</i> hard to larboard. Then I saw it. It was a wall. A huge dark wall of wood lined with gun ports. I could hear men shouting on the other ship as they made their best efforts to avoid letting us collide.
“EVASIVE ACTION MR. AVERY!” I bellowed, “You men forward, get away from the side!”
The other ship was pulling away now, but we were still very close. The water was a frothing white as the other ship heaved to starboard and revealed her stern. It was very high and ornate, three tall windows brightly lit.
The lights.
As I continued to peer through the rain at the other ship, I noticed something very strange about it. Even though it was very well decorated, most likely an old Spanish galleon, it was extremely colorless. No gold trim, no vibrant décor… nothing. Then I remembered the ship’s side, no scheme, no color at all. It was almost as the ship were a solid, flat black. There was no telling who’s ensign it flew.
“We’re clear Sir!” Avery shouted.
“Very good, Mr. Avery!” I called back, still perplexed about the ship we had just nearly collided with. What kind of man would wash his warship a solid black? Not only was that strange, but the ship’s design resembled a fat, deep hulled merchant… yet she was bristling with guns, providing no cargo space at all. There was the most surprising thing of all, when we had almost hit her, she had seemingly instantly gained speed and left us… despite the fact that her sails were severely shredded and holed. What kind of captain would sail under full canvas in the middle of a squall?
As I looked about, no one seemed to be questioning the same things I did. Apparently, no one had seen what I saw. I was annoyed and thankful at the same time. No one had seen it, so I could not talk of it and determine what it was… on the other hand, if the crew had seen it, they would certainly believe it to be a ghost ship. I did not want morale to drop, or it would be impossible to carry out the task ahead of us.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That's part of chapter five in my first Norrington book... I like the storm idea and seeing the <i>Dutchman</i>... but it seems a bit too close to my novel for comfort. I'm not saying that you can't do this scene, but if another way could be found... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
A+!! A+!! Very Good! That kind of writing will get you somewhere. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> Commodore, this is a glimpse of the dutchman, we will not be nearly hitting it. I understand that it might be close, but we need some filler, and i think emphasizing the dutchman's silohuette and then showing that silohuette when Jack is aboard th Dutchman. The crew will be like "What in God's name was that?!" "What was what?" replies Jack "I thought I saw a ship out there," "Obviously you are seeing things," Another flash of lightning struck, no ship was there. That is not taking from your story, Commodore. What if i submitted a work from Brian Jacques Castaways of the Flying Dutchman? That would be close.
 
I agree. Different story. Different situation. A lot of different works may share some elements that are similar in nature to each other, but are really only relevant to the story they are featured in.
 
Commodore that was excelent. Jezzz
I had the whole thing in my head while reading it. Very good.

BTW I like the Dutchman idea. But that's later...not in Africa voyage.
So what after the dinner?
 
Very well written, Commodore. As per usual. As for the Dutchman sighting in the film: It'd just be a single shot like Mercer said. Since the "real" Dutchman is usually sighted around the Cape of Good Hope and in this film they actually do pass that cape, I think it would be an interesting touch. We wouldn't really make much of a scene of it, I think. There'd be a storm, Jack on the quarterdeck. Flash of lightning, Jack spots a blackish ship, far away, with apparently torn sails, sailing <i>against</i> the wind. Another flash of lighting and nothing is there. I don't really think much needs to be made of it. Jack might just appear surprised at what he saw, or perhaps he'd ask one of his officers "Did you see that?", get a reply "What?", then Jack says "That's what I thought." Couple more shots of the storm and continue to the next scene. I think it should just be a <i>very</i> short appearance: blink and you miss it.

I really like the idea of showing the Dutchman when rounding the Cape. That way we could incorporate some of the REAL Flying Dutchman myth into the film, as opposed to the 100% made up mix that is in the current films. The story is that the Flying Dutchman is only ever seen in a storm when rounding the Cape of Good Hope. And, if so, she appears to be sailing into the wind. So here we have the opportunity to stage the exact kind of sighting as many sailors claim to have seen in real life. I say: Let's take that opportunity.

Also like I suggested before, I think it would be funny if Jack would hear stories of the Flying Dutchman somewhere in the tavern before his meeting with Davy Jones. Stories of the REAL Flying Dutchman myth with captain Vanderdecken. So when Jack eventually winds up on the Dutchman, he addresses Davy Jones as "captain Vanderdecken", getting a reply like "Captain Vanderdecken? Wherever did you get that idea?" from Davy Jones. I thought that would be funny. And it would show that some of the myths in this world are quite different in "reality" than they are in the stories. So that begs the question of which myths are true, which myths have an element of truth in them and which myths are just plain false? That'd be an interesting subject to explore in the script.

What after the dinner? Perhaps we can have Jack standing at the quarterdeck along with Edwards. Perhaps a small conversation between Jack and Edwards that could be rudely interrupted by Mercer. Jack/Edwards shouts some sort of order, then cue the voyage montage. Then we get to the Jack and Edwards at night scene. Cut to Jack in his cabin when "Land ho!" is called.
 
i know i'm going to buy that book when it finds its way over here, that's for sure.

i'm not sure if this is a good idea, but how about some only just hearable organ music? jack would hear it, then he'd sight the ship. after the second flash, the ship and music will be gone, because it dived beneath the waves. there's one thing though: the sighting of the dutchman always foretold disaster, especially for the one who sighted it. but i guess the ship being burned acounts for that. i agree on the vanderdecken part, except that davy saying that that's a common misunderstanding and that he's annoyed by it might be better. maybe vanderdecken would actually be one of his crew. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
I can't imagine Jack hearing organ music when the Dutchman is far away in a storm. I do think the the disaster that happened after the sighting of the Dutchman would be the burning of Jack's ship and his subsequent deal with Davy Jones. Actually: It all makes sense. Jack sees the Dutchman and is apparently the only person to, some time after the sighting his ship is burnt and he ends up making a deal with the captain of the Flying Dutchman which eventually results in his (temporary) death.

As for Davy's response to Jack calling him Vanderdecken. I can just picture Davy saying "Whoever gave you that idea?" with that weird accent of his. Almost as if he doesn't really care, but is happy to surprise Jack. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" />
 
Damn this whole idea with storm and Dutchman is so awsome.

I'll try to think some dialouge between Jack and Edwards. And Mercer interups them.
Or the one at night.

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I can see where Morgan is going with the music. Because i would like to think that storms give Jones a rush of anger, and he plays his anger off on the organ. Maybe some faint organ music in the distance over the din of the storm, because i dont know if you guys have ever heard a REAL PIPE ORGAN, but they are L-O-U-D. Therefore, it is possible to see Morgan's point with that. Maybe we could have the Dutchman sighted multiple times over the movie, just blinks of it, and soon the audience will have a picture of the silhouette and when we finally reveal the Dutchman we could see the silhouette of it first and everyone will recognize it. That's just a thing i have been thinking about.

PS- Just to let everyone know, i have updated the official script, and ideas on what happens next during the voyage will be appreciated! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
EXT. QUARTER DECK OF THE WICKED WENCH - NIGHT

JACK LEANS ON THE RAILING LOOKING ACROSS THE MOONLIGHT
SPATTERED SEA. EDWARDS APPROACHES TO HIS RIGHT.


NATHANIEL
Ah, the sea; always changing,
never contained.



13.



JACK
That, my friend is the definition
of freedom. I am a man of the
sea...of freedom.



NATHANIEL
Then why do you work for someone
else?



JACK
You know, I have absolutely no
idea.



NATHANIEL
Hmh. You long to be free, as do I,
we are all pawns in the greater
chess game.



JACK
Pawns? Trifles, I would be a
Knight in a chess game, because
Beckett doesn't understand how
much he will lose if he removes
me.



NATHANIEL
That's just it, Lord Beckett know
exactly what he will lose by
removing you...nothing. To him
that is. I think you are a good
captain, a little misguided, but
still good.



JACK
Misguided? On this mission? More
like misinformed, I still don't
know what this mission is about.



NATHANIEL
(Quietly)
Your mission has do do with a map,
that's all I know.



JACK
A map? I have dozens of those in
my cabin what does he need one of
mine for? I seem to recall him
having one that takes up an entire
wall.



NATHANIEL
(Noting Mercer is
nearby)
That's all I know, I wasn't told much either.



JACK
Always a lack of information. Why?
Why not just say, go here, do
this? Always a secret.



MERCER
Lord Beckett doesn't keep secrets,
he just knows the value of
information.



JACK
Where do you always come from? I
don't even hear you.



MERCER
I get that often, though it is
that individual's last
words...usually. Hopefully they
wont be yours.




FADE OUT.


Here's a little interesting scene. Character development. I plan to have the camera go straight to when the Wench hits a storm immediately after Mercer says "Hopefully they wont be yours." That could work, comments appreciated! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
Here's an idea then:

They're in the storm, and its merely a scene of about 15-30 seconds to show the audience that they are on a long and perilous journey. In the scene, Jack's stumbling down the length of the deck, perfectly fine as the storm tosses crew down of their backs. Some men even nearly collide with Jack, but he doesn't notice and continues to stride along happily. Then he comes up to a crewmember who'se frozen at the rail, his hand still at the pinrails as he stares out to sea in shock.

JACK: "Oi! Move along you... no lollygaggin!" -pause- "Oi! I said..."
SAILOR: "Lord of Heaven above! She's <i>real</i>!"
JACK: "What? What's real?"
SAILOR: "The <i>Flying Dutchman</i>..."

They both look out to the blackness. The camera looks out to sea and sees nothing. It then pans back to Sparrow and the sailor.

MERCER: "Quit skylarking Sparrow..."
JACK: "Mr. Mercer... Its Captain, <i>Captain</i> Jack Sparrow!"
MERCER: "Then take to quarterdeck and act like it!"
JACK: "Well... there's no such thing as the <i>Flying Dutchman</i>!"

Jack pretends to find something important to do and strides back off towards the quarterdeck. The sailor warily peers at the blackness for a moment longer then finishes at the pinrails and leaves. As he leaves the camera's view, it pans back up to the horizon for a moment. There's a flash of lightning and the shape of the <i>Dutchman</i> paralleling the <i>Pearl</i>.

We only see the <i>Dutchman</i> once. This adds to the suprise and mystery around the ship in several ways. We know the ship is real because we've seen DMC and AWE, but we don't really know if its actually in this movie. So we're on the edge of our seat, wondering if it was merely something to throw us off or not. We don't see it and relax, but when the camera lingers for a moment and its revealed... it sends a shock into us.
I think it would be best if there were no music in this scene, relying on the gusty wind and pounding rain, accompanied by thunder to give us the mood of the scene.
 
Good, i like it Commodore. "Quit skylarking Sparrow!" LOL!! I love that! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> You never cease to amaze me Commodore. If i would ever get off me lazy bum i would purchase your book on Norrington, but time is tight at the moment, but I look forward to seeing it.
 
yep, i've heard an organ. stood right behind the thing, in fact. they are indeed VERY loud when you open the wooden flap-things. turns out it makes all kinds of funny noises when you start clowning around with the registers. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> anyway, i think jack himself should see it. it makes the legend fit better with the storyline, meaning the bad luck.
 
But Jack would see it later in the film... this would serve as an ominous hint that the <i>Dutchman</i> will play a major part later on in the movie.
 
Mercer nice dialouge.
I had writen something myself but yours is better.
But they are simmilar. Very good. Now just a little decoration.

Commodore did you published your book?

BTW we need more describing in script. Look at PotC 1 and 2.
 
I'm going to start out this post with some new ideas I've come up with.

<i><b>The scene after the dinner scene</b></i>
Jack is in his cabin doing captainy work. Edwards knocks to enter. Jack shows him in. Edwards tells Jack that "Whatever Beckett or Mercer have led Jack te believe, he does not intend to take over command of the ship from Jack". Jack is relieved and puts Edwards in charge of the navigation of the ship.

<i><b>Jack and Edwards talking at night</b></i>
This scene might ensue while Edwards is working on a position fix using a sextant. After all: Jack put Edwards in charge of the navigation. It is dark, Edwards is obtaining the position from the stars and Jack observes him from a distance. Then the conversation scene occurs as being written.

<i><b>Arrival at Africa</b></i>
Sailing a ship in those days was not an accurate affair. After all: The Global Positioning System (GPS) had not been invented yet and sailors had to rely on the stars or land marks for their navigation. Usually captains had maps of the coastline so that they could check if they really ended up where they intended to go. So when "land ho" is called, Jack orders the ship to sail along the coastline to check if they are where they want to. It appears that they are EXACTLY where they wanted to end up. Jack complements Edwards with his impressive navigatory skills.

<i><b>The French Pirate</b></i>
We had the idea of adding a ship-to-ship battle between Jack and some French pirate which ended up with them joining forces to find the Aztec treasure of Isla de Muerte (though they don't yet know it is there; they think it's in Mexico). How about we place this battle DURING the voyage from Africa to the Caribbean while Edwards is still aboard? That way we can see Edwards in action, fighting side-by-side with Jack. Jack ends up duelling the French captain and he surrenders his ship, exclaiming "I know a worthy adversary when I see one. But how about a worthy partner?", which makes Jack consider joining up with the French pirate to search for the treasure. Jack captures the ship and names Edwards captain (logical: Edwards has the highest rank AND he is Jack's friend). The French captain is put in the brig of the Wicked Wench. Jack goes to visit the French pirate to discuss the possibility of a partnership. They agree. Mercer is captured. Edwards aboard the other ship notices nothing of this. Jack summons Edwards to his ship, where the "Jack hiding the pirate flag behind his back" scene plays out. Edwards is also put in the brig and the French captain is released and regains captaincy of his ship.

I think the French captain should be quite a gentlemanly pirate and make it appear to Jack like piracy is not such a bad thing after all. Jack yearns for freedom and the French captain offers it to him, along with the opportunity to become rich. This would also make Jack's motivations more ambiguous. Did Jack turn to piracy and release the slaves because he has something against slavery or did he do it because he was presented with a profitable and attractive offer? We'll let the audience to decide for themselves. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />

<i><b>Sighting of the Flying Dutchman</b></i>
I would opt for not milking this one. Personally I would choose to have this scene a genuine "blink or you miss it" scene. So to achieve that, we could make sure it does not appear very important to the audience. So then there should be no excessive dialog spent on this scene, no Dutchman-music and no repeated sightings.

The shortest possible scene for this that I can imagine is this: A storm is raging. Jack is at the quarterdeck, looking at the horizon. Flash of lighting. Jack sees the silhouette of a ship that appears to be sailing against the wind and has torn sails. Another flash of lighting and it is gone. Jack asks one of his crewmembers "Did you see that?", who replies "What?" and Jack says "I thought not". That way the whole thing is handled in two shots of the sea, one with ship and one without, and three lines of dialog. Can't go much shorter than that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223806:date=Nov 29 2007, 11:29 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 29 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]223806[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe we could have the Dutchman sighted multiple times over the movie, just blinks of it, and soon the audience will have a picture of the silhouette and when we finally reveal the Dutchman we could see the silhouette of it first and everyone will recognize it. That's just a thing i have been thinking about.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I don't really like that. One sighting is enough. Otherwise I fear we'd seem to be milking it for all it's worth. I vote for just that one sighting at the Cape of Good Hope. This is where the "real" Flying Dutchman is sighted and would make the most sense to me. Especially if we want Jack to believe the original Vanderdecken myth until he meets Davy Jones for real.

<!--quoteo(post=223808:date=Nov 30 2007, 12:02 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 30 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]223808[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here's a little interesting scene.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's a nice one. I'll see if I can add some changes to it in my next post. I've got some thoughts. Good work! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223812:date=Nov 30 2007, 02:25 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Nov 30 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]223812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They're in the storm, and its merely a scene of about 15-30 seconds to show the audience that they are on a long and perilous journey. In the scene, Jack's stumbling down the length of the deck, perfectly fine as the storm tosses crew down of their backs. Some men even nearly collide with Jack, but he doesn't notice and continues to stride along happily. Then he comes up to a crewmember who'se frozen at the rail, his hand still at the pinrails as he stares out to sea in shock.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That sounds really good. Not what I had in mind originally, but another good option to be sure. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
See above for my thoughts on the scene. Perhaps we can somehow combine the two?

<!--quoteo(post=223812:date=Nov 30 2007, 02:25 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Nov 30 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]223812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MERCER: "Quit skylarking Sparrow..."
JACK: "Mr. Mercer... Its Captain, <i>Captain</i> Jack Sparrow!"
MERCER: "Then take to quarterdeck and act like it!"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->LOL! That one's brilliant! If we go with the Flying Dutchman sighting at the Cape of Good Hope, Mercer wouldn't actually be aboard the Wicked Wench at this point though. But one thing's for sure: THOSE LINES MUST GO IN THE SCRIPT! I am sure we can think of another place to use that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223812:date=Nov 30 2007, 02:25 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Nov 30 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]223812[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MERCER: "Quit skylarking Sparrow..."We only see the <i>Dutchman</i> once. This adds to the suprise and mystery around the ship in several ways. We know the ship is real because we've seen DMC and AWE, but we don't really know if its actually in this movie. So we're on the edge of our seat, wondering if it was merely something to throw us off or not. We don't see it and relax, but when the camera lingers for a moment and its revealed... it sends a shock into us.
I think it would be best if there were no music in this scene, relying on the gusty wind and pounding rain, accompanied by thunder to give us the mood of the scene.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I like that. Especially if we tell the Vanderdecken myth prior to this, the audience would be confused on what route we'd be going with the Flying Dutchman story. They KNOW Vanderdecken is NOT the captain of the Dutchman in the PotC movies, so they might assume that since we tell the wrong story beforehand, it must be false and the sighting of the Dutchman would probably also be false. Then we surprise the audience by actually showing the Dutchman for the shortest of shots. Nice! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223818:date=Nov 30 2007, 04:25 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 30 2007, 04:25 AM) [snapback]223818[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If i would ever get off me lazy bum i would purchase your book on Norrington, but time is tight at the moment, but I look forward to seeing it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think it's not published (yet). If it were available anywhere, I'd try and get it myself for sure! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223834:date=Nov 30 2007, 04:00 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Nov 30 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]223834[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I had writen something myself but yours is better.
But they are simmilar. Very good. Now just a little decoration.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Can you post what you have? There might be something in there we can use. And I am always interested in different thoughts on the same scene. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223834:date=Nov 30 2007, 04:00 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Nov 30 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]223834[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I had writen something myself but yours is better.BTW we need more describing in script. Look at PotC 1 and 2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What do you mean by that? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Pieter Boelen+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think it's not published (yet). If it were available anywhere, I'd try and get it myself for sure!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Its not published yet. Its been a finished work for almost eight months now, but my biggest problem is finding a way to bypass all the junk and get right to someone important at Disney. I've E-Mailed and phoned represenatives, but they don't even want to talk... literally. I call, they pick up... I get out a "Hello, may I talk to..." *click*. If push comes to shove I'd like to go to Lulu.com and publish it myself... only problem is that I would infringe on Disney's rules for using their characters and not publishing through them... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" />

But fear not. I'm still writing. Currently I'm about fifty pages into my second one and Norrington is off to England from the colonies with a request for ships to aid Admiral Graves and a declaration to allow them to fight back at the rebelling colonials. Yep, its early 1776. I've got some good ideas brewing...
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=223880:date=Nov 30 2007, 10:35 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Nov 30 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]223880[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Its not published yet. Its been a finished work for almost eight months now, but my biggest problem is finding a way to bypass all the junk and get right to someone important at Disney. I've E-Mailed and phoned represenatives, but they don't even want to talk... literally. I call, they pick up... I get out a "Hello, may I talk to..." *click*. If push comes to shove I'd like to go to Lulu.com and publish it myself... only problem is that I would infringe on Disney's rules for using their characters and not publishing through them... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":|" border="0" alt="mellow.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->ARGH! They (almost?) FORCE you to infringe on their rights. I fear we've got the same problem lying ahead of us when this script is finished. How are we ever going to get somebody who has any influence to even have a glance at it at all? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

How about this for the night conversation scene? Changes in <b>bold</b>.
I ended up changing more than I had originally intended. Sorry about that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" />
Comments appreciated. I'm not sure it is perfect like this yet. Could probably use some more work. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->EXT. QUARTER DECK OF THE WICKED WENCH - NIGHT

JACK LEANS ON THE RAILING LOOKING ACROSS THE MOONLIGHT
SPATTERED SEA.
<b>EDWARDS IS WORKING ON A POSITION FIX USING A SEXTANT.</b>


<b>JACK
So how do you like sailing at sea?</b>



NATHANIEL
<b>(Continuing with his sextant)</b>
Ah, the sea; always changing,
never contained.



13.



JACK
That, my friend, is the definition
of freedom.



<b>NATHANIEL
(Drops what he is doing)
You seem to care much for your freedom.



JACK
That I do.



NATHANIEL
(Earnestly)
This ship does not belong to Beckett, does she? She's your own
ship, right? Then why are you not off on your own?</b>



JACK
You know, I have absolutely <i>no</i>
idea.



NATHANIEL
You long to be free, as do we all.
But we are all pawns in the greater
chess game.



JACK
Pawns? Trifles. <b>I would be a
<i>Knight</i> in this chess game.
Beckett doesn't understand how
much he will lose if he removes
me.



NATHANIEL
I'm afraid Lord Beckett knows
exactly what he will lose by
removing you... nothing. You
are a good man, Jack. Just
a little misguided.



JACK
Misguided? On this mission? More
like misinformed. I hardly know what
this is all about.



NATHANIEL
(Quietly)
Neither do I. But do be careful. There
seems to be more at stake than you
realize. Mercer is not here for nothing.



JACK
Always a lack of information. Never
a clear answer. Why?



MERCER
Lord Beckett knows the value of
information.



JACK
(Surprised)
Shouldn't you be in bed by now?



MERCER
I get that often. Usually it is that
individual's last words. I hope they
won't be yours.</b>




FADE OUT.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
 
i thought i offered Artois Voysey as a captain? he always seemed a dignified figure to me which had an elegant, flamboyant style of swordplay. maybe an odd comparison, but he'd have the air of a manager of a first-class restaurant.

better not get ahead of things commodore. if it doesn't work out somehow, you'd have a whole lot of work for nothing. but it's your choice.
 
We could, at the very least, use the name "Artois Voysey" for the time being. I don't like referring to him as "the French captain". I can't really see the REAL ingame Artois Voysey being that pirate captain though. Artois is a useless fellow. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
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