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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

Ahoy matyes...
I see you have some interesting stuff. Nice pic Mercer. I'm also for the foruth one... or right bottom.


<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MERCER
I don't think it is funny, Mr. Sparrow. (crew stops laughing when they see the cold anger in the eyes of Mercer) Keep in your consideration why you are on this trip, and what would happen if you fail. Goodevening gentlemen.
(Walks off.)

JACK
(Thinks of the things Mercer just said, looking uneasily. Looks up again to the officers.)
Did you notice he has a funny accent?
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This is very good.

I didn't liked the idea of a trip 15 minutes long but now when we're working on it... I love it.
We're doing fine if you ask me. This will be one <i>huelava</i> script.

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" />
 
We have some interesting ideas to say the least, and it should make for an original and funny script. We just have to make sure our ideas look as good in screenplay form as they do in our posts.
 
Question: What after the dinner???

A little argue with JAck and Mercer about....something? Or Jack and Edwards talk?

Or something else?
 
Good question. Just some every day sailor life or something? Or a voyage montage of sorts? Then next thing, we get the scene you came up with involving Jack and Edwards on deck, talking about the sea.

<!--quoteo(post=223422:date=Nov 27 2007, 04:40 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 27 2007, 04:40 AM) [snapback]223422[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We just have to make sure our ideas look as good in screenplay form as they do in our posts.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That would be my biggest worry. We all have brilliant ideas, but they also need to come accross as the brilliant ideas they are in the script. So that when somebody else reads the script without any additional explanation from us, they will understand our meaning and get the idea that it's a good script. That must be the hardest part of writing a script. Making sure the good ideas actually come across to the readers and the possible eventual audience.
 
<!--quoteo(post=223469:date=Nov 27 2007, 05:20 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 27 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]223469[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Good question. Just some every day sailor life or something? Or a voyage montage of sorts? Then next thing, we get the scene you came up with involving Jack and Edwards on deck, talking about the sea.

<!--quoteo(post=223422:date=Nov 27 2007, 04:40 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 27 2007, 04:40 AM) [snapback]223422[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We just have to make sure our ideas look as good in screenplay form as they do in our posts.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That would be my biggest worry. We all have brilliant ideas, but they also need to come accross as the brilliant ideas they are in the script. So that when somebody else reads the script without any additional explanation from us, they will understand our meaning and get the idea that it's a good script. That must be the hardest part of writing a script. Making sure the good ideas actually come across to the readers and the possible eventual audience.
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I totaly agree.
 
Guys, i understand that you want to show sailor life, but we cant allocate more than 5-8 minutes of it, i know they are background alot of the time, but the only way we can show the life is if it has a significance to the story, as in maybe a plot on the ship to do something, or something along those lines. People, especially children arent going to be interested in a 15 minute straight segment of just sailors working. I would like to see that being a sailing enthusiast, but my instinct on the trend of this, and what people look for, it would be better off either having a plot with them, or having them just be backdrop, as bad as that seems, that's the way it is. I swear when i went to see Master and Commander, there was not one child there under 14. And there was only like a few teens there. We have to keep this fun, just showing the monotonous life of a sailor will come off, as it were...monotonous. I just cant see that in a POTC movie, a 15 minute segment of just scrubbing the deck. Now if we layer it, like when Norrington was scrubbing the deck on the Pearl, while contributing to the overall story in this case listening to Jack and Elizabeth, then we can show as much of it as we want. I just thought this would be good to bring into the crosshairs because it is fast approaching.
 
<!--quoteo(post=223469:date=Nov 27 2007, 11:20 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 27 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]223469[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=223422:date=Nov 27 2007, 04:40 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 27 2007, 04:40 AM) [snapback]223422[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We just have to make sure our ideas look as good in screenplay form as they do in our posts.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That would be my biggest worry. We all have brilliant ideas, but they also need to come accross as the brilliant ideas they are in the script. So that when somebody else reads the script without any additional explanation from us, they will understand our meaning and get the idea that it's a good script. That must be the hardest part of writing a script. Making sure the good ideas actually come across to the readers and the possible eventual audience.
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I'm concerned with that as well, believe me. I would hate to see our script just tossed aside because a lot of our ideas didn't come across as we intended. That's where Mercer's admonitions about the script being approved by everyone come in. Nothing should be set in stone, we should always reserve the right to come back and fine tune or add in other segments should we find it necessary to later on. There are some brilliant ideas here, more importantly, they are brilliant POTC ideas. We have to be up to the task in making sure they get to the screen.
 
<!--quoteo(post=223514:date=Nov 27 2007, 05:08 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 27 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]223514[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Guys, i understand that you want to show sailor life, but we cant allocate more than 5-8 minutes of it, i know they are background alot of the time, but the only way we can show the life is if it has a significance to the story, as in maybe a plot on the ship to do something, or something along those lines. People, especially children arent going to be interested in a 15 minute straight segment of just sailors working. I would like to see that being a sailing enthusiast, but my instinct on the trend of this, and what people look for, it would be better off either having a plot with them, or having them just be backdrop, as bad as that seems, that's the way it is. I swear when i went to see Master and Commander, there was not one child there under 14. And there was only like a few teens there. We have to keep this fun, just showing the monotonous life of a sailor will come off, as it were...monotonous. I just cant see that in a POTC movie, a 15 minute segment of just scrubbing the deck. Now if we layer it, like when Norrington was scrubbing the deck on the Pearl, while contributing to the overall story in this case listening to Jack and Elizabeth, then we can show as much of it as we want. I just thought this would be good to bring into the crosshairs because it is fast approaching.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, Mercer. I don't think that it would be necessary to focus in on stuff like that. That is meant to be more background filler then anything else. Especially in a fast paced environment such as a swashbuckling POTC movie where the plot is meant to keep moving at a crisp pace.
 
So the dinner is acctualy Jack and Mercer ''arguent''. What's next?

I said before that 15 minuts is too long for voyge.
 
i recall there was a scene with jack being cought while making his pirate flag. how about that? it would seem to me that it's too early for that, but still.
 
I came up with that idea for the voyage from Africa to the Caribbean. See <a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=214270" target="_blank">this</a> post.

About the showing of the everyday sailor life: I just want to make sure we DON'T succumb to the "instant three month journeys" phenomenon that is so apparent in modern films, especially period films. Of course we don't want to bore the audience to death, but we do want to show that when a long voyage is undertaken, there actually IS a long voyage. We might do this in the way I proposed before: a voyage montage of sorts intertwined with some character scenes. Shots of the ship sailing in different weather conditions and some shots of sailors working would look really cool and would give the impression of the passing of a lot of real time in a short amount of screentime.

Also: I don't think EVERYTHING has to contribute to the story. I would like to have some fun asides and some realistic asides. This to increase the feeling that the events really did take place in the world of the film, rather than just being a movie. If every single thing contributes to the story and everything that does not contribute to the story but DOES add to the world and the atmosphere of the film is cut, you get soulless films where the fun is lacking or that just feel like a film rather than a journey. Those little asides, be they funny or realistic or just completely unnescessary to the story, can contribute surprisingly much to a film. It adds a lot of replay value and also gives the impression that a scene started before it was shown and still continues after it has ended. The idea would be to show the highlights for the plot onscreen but do things in such a way it seems like the rest of the scene also took place.

Basically I would very much like the film to take just a bit of a notch back from the modern flashy and quick films. There are many films nowadays that have the plot moving so quickly that you hardly follow it. I would like the film to play out at a steady pace, but not overly quickly. We should just take our time for things. If there is a pretty landscape to be seen, we actually SHOW it to the audience first, rather than continuing with the story straight away.
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Shots of the ship sailing in different weather conditions and some shots of sailors working would look really cool and would give the impression of the passing of a lot of real time in a short amount of screentime<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We'll this is cool. It would take like minute or two.
After the dinner scene we hear RAT-TAT-TAT DRUM BEAT OF JACK SPARROWS SONG and we see the sailros doing work, and we see the Wench and it's sailors on rain...on sun...on wind.
And than we can toss some Jack-Edward dialouge and than.....LAND HO! ! ! !


Or a scene:
Jack walking on deck and he sees a peanut.
Jack: Hmmmm a peanut.

Just an idea. We dont have any others.

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The only things I know of scriptwriting are based on my viewing of extra's on DVDs and my opinions on what I think would make a good movie. Doesn't really help, does it? One good site: www.wordplayer.com . That's Tedd Elliott and Terry Rossio's website. They wrote the PotC scripts.
 
I am currently using a professional scriptwriter for the overall script. The stuff i have been posting is exactly from the scriptwriter, thats why I ask for people te add lines, because i add them to the overall script. Its way to hard to have 6 of us with 6 different scriptwriting programs to write the script, then we have to compare and contrast why this or that is different, it just wont work. We need one centralized script that we add to. I will have updated the last pieces from Old Salt and any others who have tweaked it to the script tonight, I was busy the last few days, with the holiday (for us in the U.S.) and just lots of things going on.

P.S. Gunsmith, i like the idea of the crew on the ship and all, just not the music, the RAT-TAT-TAT beat is saved SPECIFICALLY for when we first introduce Jack into the film, it has been for all 3 movies. A different choice of music, with the Jack Sparrow theme at the base of course will be needed.
 
By George! Pieter took the wor-, uh, paragraph right out of my mouth. We need to have something to do with the characters, which in turn means something with the plot, different weather situations is good. Though again, lets not overdo it.

Why dont we, during a storm, catch a glimpse of the outline of the Flying Dutchman when a lightning bolt lights up the sky, and then when it hits again, there is nothing there.

Just a little thought.
 
Interesting thought on the Dutchman. We could save that one for when they voyage from the Caribbean to Indonesia. They have to pass the Cape of Good Hope then, which is the cape the Flying Dutchman from the REAL myth is said to be haunting. Would make sense for such a sighting there. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

Which paragraph of mine did you agree with? I wrote several. Overdoing is never a good thing. But neither is underdoing. We DO want to show the passing of time, but not so much that it becomes boring. We DO want to show some interesting asides, but not so much as to lose track of the story. It'll be a challenge to be sure to juggle all these things in such a way to get a coherent script that takes its time for the good stuff, but still makes for a great cinema experience.
 
<!--quoteo(post=223675:date=Nov 28 2007, 04:25 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 28 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]223675[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Interesting thought on the Dutchman. We could save that one for when they voyage from the Caribbean to Indonesia. They have to pass the Cape of Good Hope then, which is the cape the Flying Dutchman from the REAL myth is said to be haunting. Would make sense for such a sighting there. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

Which paragraph of mine did you agree with? I wrote several. Overdoing is never a good thing. But neither is underdoing. We DO want to show the passing of time, but not so much that it becomes boring. We DO want to show some interesting asides, but not so much as to lose track of the story. It'll be a challenge to be sure to juggle all these things in such a way to get a coherent script that takes its time for the good stuff, but still makes for a great cinema experience.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The really, really long paragraph was what i was talking about.
 
<!--quoteo(post=223675:date=Nov 28 2007, 05:25 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 28 2007, 05:25 PM) [snapback]223675[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Overdoing is never a good thing. But neither is underdoing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Keep everything in moderation. An important rule of thumb. As long as we remember that it will keep us from going off the deep end one way or the other.
 
<!--quoteo(post=223672:date=Nov 28 2007, 05:09 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 28 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]223672[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why dont we, during a storm, catch a glimpse of the outline of the Flying Dutchman when a lightning bolt lights up the sky, and then when it hits again, there is nothing there.

Just a little thought.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like this idea as well. You can almost see it in the mind's eye. We have to keep track of all these little nuggets we come up so we can insert them later into the script.
 
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