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<!--quoteo(post=214519:date=Sep 17 2007, 01:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 17 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]214519[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think this should have realistic sea battles, then they become more and more unrealistic finally leading up to the Maelstrom in AWE so the sequel should have an unrealistic battle.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I would personally suggest having the sequel to AWE be the opposite of the current films: The first films go from realistic to unrealstic, so I would suggest having the sequel to AWE go from unrealistic back to realistic. We don't really need to go even more unrealistic than AWE, do we? I think AWE should be the highest of unrealism we go. Then in the sequel to AWE the film starts out in a crazy pirate world in which Calypso is at large again, but I think as the film progresses the unrealism should be toned down. I would also suggest to have Calypso either be captured in human form again during the film or by some other reason have Calypso tone down the weirdness in the world. Perhaps we could somehow think of some reason why she would leave the Earth of her own accord? Perhaps she went into Davy Jones' Locker (Will Turner's Locker?) to be with Davy? I think the heathen gods that have caused all the supernatural in the world should leave the Earth be at one point in order for the world to become normalish.

<!--quoteo(post=214584:date=Sep 18 2007, 03:17 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Sep 18 2007, 03:17 AM) [snapback]214584[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought the slave angle came from the screenwriters, but if not then we don't have to married to it since I agree that outside work doesn't have to be taken as gospel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the slave thing came from the screenwriters. I think the semi-official story is as follows:
- Jack works for the EITC and is asked by Beckett to collect a cargo
- The cargo turns out to be slaves and Jack refuses to transport these slaves
- Beckett burns and sinks the Wicked Wench and brands Jack a pirate
- Jack is devastated and swears he will get his ship back even if he has to raise her himself
- Jack almost drowns in an effort to raise the Pearl himself from the bottom of the sea and this is when he meets Davy Jones and makes the deal

The timeline is not entirely clear. Personally I think there should be quite an amount of time between Jack refusing to transport the slaves (or setting them free) and the time the Wicked Wench is sunk. We already have plenty of Black Pearl scenes in the current films, so I would suggest to have the transformation from the Wicked Wench into the Black Pearl take place late in the film, almost at the end so that we have many scenes with the Wicked Wench in the prequel instead.

Also: Did anyone notice the many people in the scenes at Tia Dalma's house-in-the-swamp? Where did they all come from? Who are they? I personally tend to think that these people were the slaves set free by Jack Sparrow, which also makes it clear that Tia Dalma indeed does have something to do with these slaves.

<!--quoteo(post=214587:date=Sep 18 2007, 04:32 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 18 2007, 04:32 AM) [snapback]214587[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You know it would be more like 5 minutes of suspended disbelief. The Kracken is going to be needed to raise the pearl because Jones sure as heck doesnt know how to use the force. Then Everything plays as planned. Did you see the picture i drew up? That has got to be the WORST handwriting i have used for years, i had to hastily srawl it up, and post it today, so it is there as a reference.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The Kraken? Good point. Although we should probably not show too much of the Kraken at this point, because DMC should be the Kraken-film. I am also wondering if Davy Jones could somehow call up some sort of reversed whirlpool or geyser or something else to raise the Pearl. I am rather wondering how to show the whole Davy Jones/raising of the Pearl thing without making it seem TOO supernatural. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

BTW: Do you really think the Flying Dutchman should be unbeatable? I think the Dutchman should definitely be one of the strongest ships in the world, but I think that with a massive fleet it should be possible to blow her to smithereens. I think the main advantages of the Flying Dutchman are the triple forward chasers (very handy in chases like at the end of DMC), her ability to sail against the wind and especially her ability to submerge and to suddenly show up right next to her target. I also think she has some very big calibre guns so that when she hits enemy ships with her cannon balls, that they do some major damage.
 
<!--quoteo(post=214600:date=Sep 18 2007, 04:51 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 18 2007, 04:51 AM) [snapback]214600[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=214519:date=Sep 17 2007, 01:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 17 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]214519[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think this should have realistic sea battles, then they become more and more unrealistic finally leading up to the Maelstrom in AWE so the sequel should have an unrealistic battle.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I would personally suggest having the sequel to AWE be the opposite of the current films: The first films go from realistic to unrealstic, so I would suggest having the sequel to AWE go from unrealistic back to realistic. We don't really need to go even more unrealistic than AWE, do we? I think AWE should be the highest of unrealism we go. Then in the sequel to AWE the film starts out in a crazy pirate world in which Calypso is at large again, but I think as the film progresses the unrealism should be toned down. I would also suggest to have Calypso either be captured in human form again during the film or by some other reason have Calypso tone down the weirdness in the world. Perhaps we could somehow think of some reason why she would leave the Earth of her own accord? Perhaps she went into Davy Jones' Locker (Will Turner's Locker?) to be with Davy? I think the heathen gods that have caused all the supernatural in the world should leave the Earth be at one point in order for the world to become normalish.

<!--quoteo(post=214584:date=Sep 18 2007, 03:17 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Sep 18 2007, 03:17 AM) [snapback]214584[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought the slave angle came from the screenwriters, but if not then we don't have to married to it since I agree that outside work doesn't have to be taken as gospel.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the slave thing came from the screenwriters. I think the semi-official story is as follows:
- Jack works for the EITC and is asked by Beckett to collect a cargo
- The cargo turns out to be slaves and Jack refuses to transport these slaves
- Beckett burns and sinks the Wicked Wench and brands Jack a pirate
- Jack is devastated and swears he will get his ship back even if he has to raise her himself
- Jack almost drowns in an effort to raise the Pearl himself from the bottom of the sea and this is when he meets Davy Jones and makes the deal

The timeline is not entirely clear. Personally I think there should be quite an amount of time between Jack refusing to transport the slaves (or setting them free) and the time the Wicked Wench is sunk. We already have plenty of Black Pearl scenes in the current films, so I would suggest to have the transformation from the Wicked Wench into the Black Pearl take place late in the film, almost at the end so that we have many scenes with the Wicked Wench in the prequel instead.

Also: Did anyone notice the many people in the scenes at Tia Dalma's house-in-the-swamp? Where did they all come from? Who are they? I personally tend to think that these people were the slaves set free by Jack Sparrow, which also makes it clear that Tia Dalma indeed does have something to do with these slaves.

<!--quoteo(post=214587:date=Sep 18 2007, 04:32 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 18 2007, 04:32 AM) [snapback]214587[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You know it would be more like 5 minutes of suspended disbelief. The Kracken is going to be needed to raise the pearl because Jones sure as heck doesnt know how to use the force. Then Everything plays as planned. Did you see the picture i drew up? That has got to be the WORST handwriting i have used for years, i had to hastily srawl it up, and post it today, so it is there as a reference.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The Kraken? Good point. Although we should probably not show too much of the Kraken at this point, because DMC should be the Kraken-film. I am also wondering if Davy Jones could somehow call up some sort of reversed whirlpool or geyser or something else to raise the Pearl. I am rather wondering how to show the whole Davy Jones/raising of the Pearl thing without making it seem TOO supernatural. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

BTW: Do you really think the Flying Dutchman should be unbeatable? I think the Dutchman should definitely be one of the strongest ships in the world, but I think that with a massive fleet it should be possible to blow her to smithereens. I think the main advantages of the Flying Dutchman are the triple forward chasers (very handy in chases like at the end of DMC), her ability to sail against the wind and especially her ability to submerge and to suddenly show up right next to her target. I also think she has some very big calibre guns so that when she hits enemy ships with her cannon balls, that they do some major damage.
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Hey, Pieter, i am just following what was said in the movie, THE FLYING DUTCHMAN CANNOT BE DEFEATED IN BATTLE! Mercer is even optamistic and even smiles about it. Anyways, the dutchman is highly manuverable, and could out manuver some broadsides. Look at the battle in AWE, you saw all of the cannon hits on it, but the damage was minimal. Quite actually the dutchman COULD win this fight. Again i go back to that picture on page 7 i believe 'tis. The dutchman fought off almost 6 ships with ease, so 27 ships might be a little challenging, but she could still pull it off.
 
have you taken the wind direction into account? so that it's actually possible that the ships sail in the direction they are sailing?
 
<!--quoteo(post=214611:date=Sep 18 2007, 01:39 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 18 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]214611[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hey, Pieter, i am just following what was said in the movie, THE FLYING DUTCHMAN CANNOT BE DEFEATED IN BATTLE! Mercer is even optamistic and even smiles about it. Anyways, the dutchman is highly manuverable, and could out manuver some broadsides. Look at the battle in AWE, you saw all of the cannon hits on it, but the damage was minimal. Quite actually the dutchman COULD win this fight. Again i go back to that picture on page 7 i believe 'tis. The dutchman fought off almost 6 ships with ease, so 27 ships might be a little challenging, but she could still pull it off.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Perhaps Mercer was exaggerating? I personally think a completely undefeatable ship is somewhat dull. Imagine the Flying Dutchman with a completely crappy captain and crew. Would she still be able to win any battle? I don't think so. I think she is "undefeatable" not because she IS undefeatable, but because of the strategy of her captain, her ability to sail against the wind, her triple forward chasers and her ability to submerge and thus to have the element of surprise. I must admit I don't remember the third film so well. What exactly was the quote about the Dutchman?

Talking about the third film: Is there not a quote saying that the first brethren court encased Caypso in human form hundreds of years ago and that this was after Davy betrayed her (or she betrayed him, depending on how you look at it)? If that is the case, Davy must have been cursed for hundreds of years, which would make Davy in human form in the prequel somewhat tricky. Still I much prefer to have Davy in human or almost-human form over having him be all squid-like in the prequel. But then I would also opt for not having him physically in the film much. Just one or two short scenes with Davy and the Dutchman, but not add much of Davy nor the Dutchman in the prequel. Instead I would opt for showing something new.
 
well, barbossa IS talking a bit as if the first brethren court wheren't the same people as they are. i think that calypso was far earlier imprisoned. if we have the date of when the EIC started ruling the caribbean, we know when calypso was imprisoned.
 
It wasn't the same bunch of people, that much is certain. But I wonder if there is anything said about how long ago the first brethren court was held. Hopefully we can somehow interpret was is said as meaning that Davy Jones does not need to look squidlike during the prequel. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
And the stories are taking place in reverse, so he found a plastic surgeon between CotBP and the prequel, but didn't have one yet in DMC and AWE. Right? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
never expected that you would take that one seriously.

speaking of seriously, i never had comfirmation about being manager of the bugtracker. would you clear things up?
 
Who said I did take it seriously? I was just joking along. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

As for the Bug Tracker Manager thing: You can do it if you want to as far as I'm concerned.
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The only two SOTL's built with that large of armament were the U.S.S. Pennsylvania and the San Felipe (i think) The one that participated in Trafalgar, i cant think for sure off the top of my head if that is it, Commodore enlighten me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was the <i>Santísima Trinidad</i> that fought at Trafalgar... and she was armed with 136 guns!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />


You might want to take the wind into account mate. This battle seems exciting, but impossible to me.

- To make a circle, some vessels would have to "miss stays" and put themselves into the wind, rendering them useless and dead in the water... a stupid tactical blunder on Beckett's part.

- If they all managed to keep in a favorable position or angle with the wind, some ships wouldn't be able to come about in time to give chase.

- When time came to give chase, it is literally impossible to believe that everyone would manage to get out of the circle and not collide and get tangled with another ship.

- The ships would either have to take in sail and pray they don't drift too far or ride at one anchor cable. Then, when the time to move came, they would waste time while cutting their cables and setting sail. (When Francois de Grasse sighted the British at the Battle of the Chesapeake in 1781, it took the French fleet from 6 am 'till noon to get into battle ready formation in open water.)

Here are some suggested names for British ships:
<i>Sovereign</i> - Very royal sounding.
<i>Phalanx</i> - Military tactic used by Greco/Roman armies... the wooden hull and iron guns mirror the shields and pikes. Prefer this one be used to name a first rate. (This is one of my favorite names for a ship!)
<i>Juggernaut</i> - Another good name for a large ship.
<i>Revelation</i> - frigate.
<i>Relentless</i> - frigate.
<i>Perclies</i>*
<i>Lysander</i>*
*The Royal Navy used <u>a lot</u> of mythology in naming their ships. Keep that in mind... lots of gods, military leaders, etc.
 
<!--quoteo(post=214622:date=Sep 18 2007, 01:11 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 18 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]214622[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Talking about the third film: Is there not a quote saying that the first brethren court encased Caypso in human form hundreds of years ago and that this was after Davy betrayed her (or she betrayed him, depending on how you look at it)? If that is the case, Davy must have been cursed for hundreds of years, which would make Davy in human form in the prequel somewhat tricky. Still I much prefer to have Davy in human or almost-human form over having him be all squid-like in the prequel. But then I would also opt for not having him physically in the film much. Just one or two short scenes with Davy and the Dutchman, but not add much of Davy nor the Dutchman in the prequel. Instead I would opt for showing something new.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I had thought to bring up this point myself, but could find no evidence to back up the claim. I too thought that Davy Jones ceded his humanity a considerable time before we ever saw him in DMC. Admittedly timelines in the films are ludicrously portrayed (the cursed pirates in CBP look like skeletons despite being only 10 years older than when they acquired the Aztec gold), but I got the impression Calypso had been imprisoned in mortal flesh for some time and that Jones had been a monster so long he'd lost every last ounce of his humanity. If this be so, then Jones in mortal form can be nought but a flashback scene...and they be hitherto unprecendented in POTC films.
 
<!--quoteo(post=214622:date=Sep 18 2007, 07:11 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 18 2007, 07:11 AM) [snapback]214622[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=214611:date=Sep 18 2007, 01:39 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 18 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]214611[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hey, Pieter, i am just following what was said in the movie, THE FLYING DUTCHMAN CANNOT BE DEFEATED IN BATTLE! Mercer is even optamistic and even smiles about it. Anyways, the dutchman is highly manuverable, and could out manuver some broadsides. Look at the battle in AWE, you saw all of the cannon hits on it, but the damage was minimal. Quite actually the dutchman COULD win this fight. Again i go back to that picture on page 7 i believe 'tis. The dutchman fought off almost 6 ships with ease, so 27 ships might be a little challenging, but she could still pull it off.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Perhaps Mercer was exaggerating? I personally think a completely undefeatable ship is somewhat dull. Imagine the Flying Dutchman with a completely crappy captain and crew. Would she still be able to win any battle? I don't think so. I think she is "undefeatable" not because she IS undefeatable, but because of the strategy of her captain, her ability to sail against the wind, her triple forward chasers and her ability to submerge and thus to have the element of surprise. I must admit I don't remember the third film so well. What exactly was the quote about the Dutchman?

Talking about the third film: Is there not a quote saying that the first brethren court encased Caypso in human form hundreds of years ago and that this was after Davy betrayed her (or she betrayed him, depending on how you look at it)? If that is the case, Davy must have been cursed for hundreds of years, which would make Davy in human form in the prequel somewhat tricky. Still I much prefer to have Davy in human or almost-human form over having him be all squid-like in the prequel. But then I would also opt for not having him physically in the film much. Just one or two short scenes with Davy and the Dutchman, but not add much of Davy nor the Dutchman in the prequel. Instead I would opt for showing something new.
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Jones and the Bretheren Court an exaggerated sea legend, sailors sometimes said things happened centuries ago when actually they happened a few decades ago. Look at bootstrap, he was sent to the locker 10 years before the events in COBP, then in AWE he had become noticeably more sea creature like in a timeframe that has to have been less than 6 months, so Jones could be human in the prequel and then we could show his betrayal to his duties, and then in DMC he is squidface. I would like to give Jones the same amount of screen time as Pintel and Raghetti get in the other pirates movies.

Commodore, i agree with you about the crappy crew and such, Jones is a master tactician so he still might be able to win. Also we are not going to show how, all we are going to see is the Dutchman heading into the fray with her triple guns blazing. How she wins is to our imagination. If he wins then this would add to the story that his ship cannot be defeated in battle. Mercer and Beckett are there to witness it, and then that gives them reasonable motive to get the chest in DMC.

Jones and Sparrow in my opinion should become friends, and that would enable them to sack Nassau without firing a shot, except good old Jack being himself takes all the credit.
 
<!--quoteo(post=214700:date=Sep 18 2007, 03:15 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Sep 18 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]214700[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The only two SOTL's built with that large of armament were the U.S.S. Pennsylvania and the San Felipe (i think) The one that participated in Trafalgar, i cant think for sure off the top of my head if that is it, Commodore enlighten me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was the <i>Santísima Trinidad</i> that fought at Trafalgar... and she was armed with 136 guns!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />


You might want to take the wind into account mate. This battle seems exciting, but impossible to me.

- To make a circle, some vessels would have to "miss stays" and put themselves into the wind, rendering them useless and dead in the water... a stupid tactical blunder on Beckett's part.

- If they all managed to keep in a favorable position or angle with the wind, some ships wouldn't be able to come about in time to give chase.

- When time came to give chase, it is literally impossible to believe that everyone would manage to get out of the circle and not collide and get tangled with another ship.

- The ships would either have to take in sail and pray they don't drift too far or ride at one anchor cable. Then, when the time to move came, they would waste time while cutting their cables and setting sail. (When Francois de Grasse sighted the British at the Battle of the Chesapeake in 1781, it took the French fleet from 6 am 'till noon to get into battle ready formation in open water.)

Here are some suggested names for British ships:
<i>Sovereign</i> - Very royal sounding.
<i>Phalanx</i> - Military tactic used by Greco/Roman armies... the wooden hull and iron guns mirror the shields and pikes. Prefer this one be used to name a first rate. (This is one of my favorite names for a ship!)
<i>Juggernaut</i> - Another good name for a large ship.
<i>Revelation</i> - frigate.
<i>Relentless</i> - frigate.
<i>Perclies</i>*
<i>Lysander</i>*
*The Royal Navy used <u>a lot</u> of mythology in naming their ships. Keep that in mind... lots of gods, military leaders, etc.
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Sorry Commodore, i posted at 5 am this morning, and i was tired and wasnt thinking.
 
Could anyone come up with an explanation why Bootstrap Bill detoriated so quickly? In DMC he was pretty much allright, seeming to be less influenced by the curse than the other crewmembers, yet in AWE he was already almost in Wyvern-state whilst the other crewmembers were mostly still the same as in DMC. What happened? If we can figure out why Bootstrap detoriated so quickly, perhaps we can use similar reasoning to find out how quickly Davy Jones did or did not become squid-like. In any case: It is a bit of a mystery. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
 
I don't know how many of you have seen this, but it can help us.
It also hurts us, its not a 'set in stone' timeline... what being on wikipedia, but it could possibly be what Disney has released to the press.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Pirates_of_the_Caribbean_films" target="_blank">Pirates of the Caribbean Timeline</a>

(Its ok Mercer... I get those moments as well! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />)
 
<!--quoteo(post=214704:date=Sep 18 2007, 03:47 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 18 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]214704[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=214700:date=Sep 18 2007, 03:15 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Sep 18 2007, 03:15 PM) [snapback]214700[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The only two SOTL's built with that large of armament were the U.S.S. Pennsylvania and the San Felipe (i think) The one that participated in Trafalgar, i cant think for sure off the top of my head if that is it, Commodore enlighten me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was the <i>Santísima Trinidad</i> that fought at Trafalgar... and she was armed with 136 guns!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />


You might want to take the wind into account mate. This battle seems exciting, but impossible to me.

- To make a circle, some vessels would have to "miss stays" and put themselves into the wind, rendering them useless and dead in the water... a stupid tactical blunder on Beckett's part.

- If they all managed to keep in a favorable position or angle with the wind, some ships wouldn't be able to come about in time to give chase.

- When time came to give chase, it is literally impossible to believe that everyone would manage to get out of the circle and not collide and get tangled with another ship.

- The ships would either have to take in sail and pray they don't drift too far or ride at one anchor cable. Then, when the time to move came, they would waste time while cutting their cables and setting sail. (When Francois de Grasse sighted the British at the Battle of the Chesapeake in 1781, it took the French fleet from 6 am 'till noon to get into battle ready formation in open water.)

Here are some suggested names for British ships:
<i>Sovereign</i> - Very royal sounding.
<i>Phalanx</i> - Military tactic used by Greco/Roman armies... the wooden hull and iron guns mirror the shields and pikes. Prefer this one be used to name a first rate. (This is one of my favorite names for a ship!)
<i>Juggernaut</i> - Another good name for a large ship.
<i>Revelation</i> - frigate.
<i>Relentless</i> - frigate.
<i>Perclies</i>*
<i>Lysander</i>*
*The Royal Navy used <u>a lot</u> of mythology in naming their ships. Keep that in mind... lots of gods, military leaders, etc.
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Sorry Commodore, i posted at 5 am this morning, and i was tired and wasnt thinking.
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Also, remember, Beckett is not as smart as he is in DMC and AWE so it would be a tactical blunder, and i took that into account. How about this, the wind is blowing from the east (lets use as an example) and Becketts fleet is approaching from the NW and Mercer's intercepted fleet from the SE, they would both be able to catch the wind as they could rig their studd sails out to catch the quarter wind off their side. Beckett doesnt even have to turn around, just Mercers fleet, they will all HAVE to turn starboard in order to keep the wind behind them. Now they will be able to sail at the quarter wind. There you are the wind taken into account.
 
You know that was on Wiki, and it cannot be trusted, i can go on there and say Jones was born in Shanghi to a Mr. Wong, and Mrs, Wong, Jack ate over radiated potato chips which made him mad, and Jones fell in love with calypso in 2230. Again this is not "set in stone" as you put it, and we should re arrange it so all the pieces fit. Jones wasnt explicit on how many years he dontated to the service "10 years" maybe he did do ten years, and Calypso was there thw first few times, but then after another "10 years" she failed to show, so he neglected his duties and became a walking octupus.
 
Yep, so I saw we take the liberty of changing a few things. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> And "over radiated potato chips"?! We've got to put that in as the reason why he went weird! (j/k)
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> LOL! i am starting to crack up at my own jokes, hah! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/monkeydance.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mi" border="0" alt="monkeydance.gif" /> (wiping tears from eyes) Okay, so what do you think about the wind plan i have? And Commodore did you see the battle plan i drew up?
 
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