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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

Remember when Feng said that Sparrow paid him great dishonor once? (Then punched him in the face). We should explore that. Maybe we can do the pirating with Sao Feng, and we can get that honest speck of pirating into the film, and show more of him.
 
Pieter, the reason i think we should show bootstrap, and the mutiny is because most people dont remember words they remember what they saw. I think the mutiny should be shown, and the 10 years later thing for COBP would fit in nicely, then you can know what happened instead of finding out a third of the way through the film. We dont REALLY find out about the mutiny until will is in the Pearls brig and Pintel and Raghetti tell him the story of it. Thats why we must show it, and the curse of the Aztec gold. We might actually have to divide the prequel into two films, or rearrange some things.
 
I have to disagree with you on that. The mutiny and the curse are both adequately explained in CotBP; we <i>really</i> don't need to do it again. Yes, we only find out about it halfway into the CotBP film. So what? It works. I even consider it one of that film's strength. Showing it all will greatly diminish that and make the explanations about it in CotBP both useless and tiresome.
 
I wouldn't put Singapore in the prequel; that would spoil AWE. However, we ARE going to Indonesia, which isn't all that far away at all. So I think Sao Feng could be somewhere in Indonesia at the time of the film. So we do get Sao Feng for some additional character development, but we don't get Singapore, so we won't spoil AWE.
 
I will agree on the Sao Feng idea. I think he was underused. Anyways, it wont make the explanation in COBP tiresome, it will reinforce it. Like we saw and heard in DMC that jones cant step foot on land for 10 years for example. I can count 3 times in AWE where they said the SAME EXACT line. 1 day on land 10 years at sea. Showing it wouldnt do anything to COBP just in COBP the talking of it could fill in quick crammers on the series. I think it would be cool to show the cursing and the mutiny. Whats a good pirate film without a mutiny? You have to agree on that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
the insult from jack to feng is already known. noticed how the two women giggled when he mentioned it? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> methinks jack did something without soa feng's permission. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
Yes... then we could have Sao Feng and the <i>Empress</i> cross paths with Jack then, to preserve the coolness of Singapore in AWE. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />

And yes... apparently Jack has something of a reputation amongst the Asian ladies in AWE... I wonder... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=232265:date=Jan 5 2008, 10:59 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 5 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]232265[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Showing it wouldnt do anything to COBP just in COBP the talking of it could fill in quick crammers on the series. I think it would be cool to show the cursing and the mutiny. Whats a good pirate film without a mutiny? You have to agree on that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It definitly WOULD do something, I'm afraid. And a big something too. If we know at the end of the prequel that Jack lost his ship to Barbossa, it removes a lot of the surprise from CotBP.

Let's pretend we end the film with Jack going after the treasure of Isla de Muerte. First thing we see of Jack in the next film is him entering Port Royal on a sinking boat. Now that would have the audience quite surprised*: why isn't Jack on the Pearl? What happened to that treasure he went after? And only gradually do we find out what actually happened. I consider that one of the main strengths of CotBP. I recall being in the cinema and trying to understand what was going on, what had happened. Because clearly something had happened before that films. By the beginning of the film, everything was a mystery, but by the end of the film, everything was clear. I really liked that movie-going experience and I think we should do nothing to diminish that.

I think everything in CotBP is pretty well explained and will need no further showing. DMC and AWE are another story though: these definitly DO need some more explanation. Mostly when it comes to Beckett and Davy Jones.

As for having a mutiny: Well, we <i>could</i> have a mutiny somewhere else. Remember at the end of AWE, Barbossa's crew seems somewhat uncomfortable with leaving Jack behind. Again. So they ask to see the location of the treasure they're after. Mirror this with Barbossa asking Jack for the location of the treasure of Isla de Muerte and the subsequent mutiny. I definitly see some similarities here and I do think that Barbossa's crew was intending to commit mutiny at that point. So we could have a mutiny at the beginning of the AWE sequel, putting Jack back on his ship with a relatively trustworthy crew (they stood up for him, didn't they), leaving Barbossa in the same way as he had left Jack twice before. This would then set up Barbossa as the bitter and angry bad guy again, which is, after all, what he does best. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" />

* Provided that they've never seen CotBP yet; and I really DO think we should assume that at some point people will watch them in order, which we must take into account.

<!--quoteo(post=232276:date=Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]232276[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes... then we could have Sao Feng and the <i>Empress</i> cross paths with Jack then, to preserve the coolness of Singapore in AWE. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ah; the Empress as well. Good idea; we didn't see enough of that ship in AWE either. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=232276:date=Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]232276[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And yes... apparently Jack has something of a reputation amongst the Asian ladies in AWE... I wonder... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Have you seen the extra features on the AWE DVD? Most specifically the backstories of the Pirate Lords? Here it is confirmed that the insult Jack paid to Sao Feng indeed did have something to do with the ladies. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=232299:date=Jan 6 2008, 01:36 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 6 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]232299[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"Apparently you've never been to Singapore,"
<i>Jack Sparrow to Murtogg and Mulroy, COBP</i><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Good point. Clearly Jack did visit Singapore before. However, he doesn't necessarily need to visit Singapore in our prequel film. First of all, it'd require additional screentime and would serve no real story purpose. We don't really <i>need</i> Singapore for our story, do we? Secondly, it would spoilthe surprise in AWE. That is one of the reasons I suggested we visit Indonesia in the first place: We do get the Oriental/Asian influence, so we do get a hint to Singapore, but we don't actually go there so we don't spoil AWE. Instead we see something we <i>haven't</i> seen before (or won't see in another film to come; depending on how you look at it).

We don't need to show everything in this one prequel. I'm not sure of Jack's age by the beginning of CotBP, but I think it must've been about 25-30. Not all important things in his life have happened during the six months of our film; they happened throughout his life and only some of it happened during our film. Do you remember the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? Within the first 15 minutes of the film, we've seen the explanation to just about everything about Indiana Jones: How did he get his hat, how did he get his whip, even how he got his scar on his chin. I found a person saying on the internet that young Indy must've been <i>really</i> impressionable right then. I think that person was right and I think we shouldn't go that route here. We should choose very carefully about what to show and what not to show. And I would personally choose to not show anything that does not explain a big mystery or contributes to the story or the fun. Better to show too little than to much, I think.
 
<!--quoteo(post=232439:date=Jan 6 2008, 06:57 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Jan 6 2008, 06:57 AM) [snapback]232439[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We don't need to show everything in this one prequel. I'm not sure of Jack's age by the beginning of CotBP, but I think it must've been about 25-30. Not all important things in his life have happened during the six months of our film; they happened throughout his life and only some of it happened during our film. Do you remember the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? Within the first 15 minutes of the film, we've seen the explanation to just about everything about Indiana Jones: How did he get his hat, how did he get his whip, even how he got his scar on his chin. I found a person saying on the internet that young Indy must've been <i>really</i> impressionable right then. I think that person was right and I think we shouldn't go that route here. We should choose very carefully about what to show and what not to show. And I would personally choose to not show anything that does not explain a big mystery or contributes to the story or the fun. Better to show too little than to much, I think.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmmm. That's interesting. Not that it really matters (although maybe we will find it pertinent later on to establish his age) but I always figured Jack's age to be Johnny Depp's real age, and he was probably around 39 in the first film. A couple of points that seemed to point to Jack being that age is that he was a good friend of Boostrap and sailed with him years before. He called Will "Son" at one point when Will drew his sword on him for saying that Bill Turner was a pirate. Usually someone will only use that term if they are addressing someone much younger than they are. And Jack does seem much to seasoned a person to be anything other than at least in his late 30s.
 
Well, Pieter i will not fence with you. You seem to have a strong opinion on this, and i am not going to fight it. I was just exploring some alternatives. Yes, Beckett and Jones need more explaining, which we can do. Mercer must also be explained for his lighter role in later films to be understood. We must focus on this.



<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS LIKE THE 5th TIME I HAVE POSTED THIS, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK BACK ON THE SCRIPT TO PERFECT IT OR NOT? WE MUST COMB THROUGH IT AND SEE WHAT MUST: BE ADDED, CUT, OR RECONFIGURED!!!!!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
I see where you are going Old Salt, i kind of liked Bootstrap's character. It could be a greater surprise in DMC to have shown him in the prequel, hear what happened to him in COBP and finally have his surprise entrance in DMC. Good idea.


Also everyone, from now on would you care if we stopped using "the prequel" as the title of our works, and the actual acronym for it: HTC? (Hoist the Colors (Colours)) .
 
<!--quoteo(post=232652:date=Jan 6 2008, 10:40 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 6 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]232652[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS LIKE THE 5th TIME I HAVE POSTED THIS, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK BACK ON THE SCRIPT TO PERFECT IT OR NOT? WE MUST COMB THROUGH IT AND SEE WHAT MUST: BE ADDED, CUT, OR RECONFIGURED!!!!!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have been reading through the script and trying to think up some new ideas or scenes that could be filler.
 
Hi all...
Now that Chritmass and New Year are over I will be here more often....like every day.
I have some catching up to do (2 pages....2 very long pages <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> )

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS LIKE THE 5th TIME I HAVE POSTED THIS, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK BACK ON THE SCRIPT TO PERFECT IT OR NOT? WE MUST COMB THROUGH IT AND SEE WHAT MUST: BE ADDED, CUT, OR RECONFIGURED!!!!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I think this definitly needs to be done.
I don't think about new ideas or new lines, I think we need more describing. You know?
Exmpl. - one of first scenes is in Beckett's office as I recall. We need to decribe his office. If he had a piece of paper on his desk we need to write that he had one. (OK maybe I'm little extortionating <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> )

I think the more describing we have, the better the script will turn out.

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<!--quoteo(post=232650:date=Jan 7 2008, 04:38 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Jan 7 2008, 04:38 AM) [snapback]232650[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmmm. That's interesting. Not that it really matters (although maybe we will find it pertinent later on to establish his age) but I always figured Jack's age to be Johnny Depp's real age, and he was probably around 39 in the first film. A couple of points that seemed to point to Jack being that age is that he was a good friend of Boostrap and sailed with him years before. He called Will "Son" at one point when Will drew his sword on him for saying that Bill Turner was a pirate. Usually someone will only use that term if they are addressing someone much younger than they are. And Jack does seem much to seasoned a person to be anything other than at least in his late 30s.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I never was good at judging ages, so take my numbers with a grain of salt. Jack being 39 in the first film actually makes my point more important, because that gives us 40 years in which the main events of Jack's life might've taken place. The chance of all of them happening within the same six months are slim to none.

<!--quoteo(post=232652:date=Jan 7 2008, 04:40 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 7 2008, 04:40 AM) [snapback]232652[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, Pieter i will not fence with you. You seem to have a strong opinion on this, and i am not going to fight it. I was just exploring some alternatives. Yes, Beckett and Jones need more explaining, which we can do. Mercer must also be explained for his lighter role in later films to be understood. We must focus on this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'm sorry about having such a strong opinion on this one. I just fear that if we go the wrong route with this one, it has the potential of screwing up not only our film, but the other ones as well. Which is definitly not what we want. If we add references to the other films, characters from the other films, or events hinted at in the other films in our film, we must be very careful with that and closely examine the impact on the effectiveness of both our own film as well the other films. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=232653:date=Jan 7 2008, 04:43 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 7 2008, 04:43 AM) [snapback]232653[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I see where you are going Old Salt, i kind of liked Bootstrap's character. It could be a greater surprise in DMC to have shown him in the prequel, hear what happened to him in COBP and finally have his surprise entrance in DMC. Good idea.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That definitly sounds good to me. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=232653:date=Jan 7 2008, 04:43 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 7 2008, 04:43 AM) [snapback]232653[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also everyone, from now on would you care if we stopped using "the prequel" as the title of our works, and the actual acronym for it: HTC? (Hoist the Colors (Colours)) .<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->LOL. Whenever I see HTC, I immediately think of High Temperature Corrosion. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
But sure we can call our film HtC now. I think it's a pretty darn good title. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=232652:date=Jan 7 2008, 04:40 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 7 2008, 04:40 AM) [snapback]232652[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS LIKE THE 5th TIME I HAVE POSTED THIS, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK BACK ON THE SCRIPT TO PERFECT IT OR NOT? WE MUST COMB THROUGH IT AND SEE WHAT MUST: BE ADDED, CUT, OR RECONFIGURED!!!!!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'll do that as soon as I can. For now I'd have the following comments:
- Annamaria can be introduced later in the film; we'll still need to come up with a proper part for her to play in the story.
- What does the Beckett-Edwards conversation at the beginning of the film actually add to the story? All story points revealed here are mentioned again in the Beckett-Jack conversation.
- I would have Jack's introduction handled quite differently. As scripted, we immediately know it's Jack, both by visual and reinforced by the music. I liked in Commodore John Paul Jones' written opening for the film that you don't know it's Jack until Mercer addresses him. Perhaps we can get something like that back into the film. I'd like to really throw off the audience here. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" />
- What about that camera shot we came up with where we first see a silhouette of the Wicked Wench against the sun, looking surprisingly like the Black Pearl?

<!--quoteo(post=232691:date=Jan 7 2008, 11:19 AM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Jan 7 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]232691[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the more describing we have, the better the script will turn out.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->We definitly need to describe the looks of the most imortant things. Examples could be some description of the beautiful English countryside opening the film, contrasted with the damp and foggy industrial London. We'll need to describe everything that is imortant for the story or the tone of the scene. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
Good points everyone!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It reminds me of High Temperature Corrosion<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL!!! What ever floats your boat! HtC it is!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm sorry about having such a strong opinion on this one. I just fear that if we go the wrong route with this one, it has the potential of screwing up not only our film, but the other ones as well. Which is definitly not what we want. If we add references to the other films, characters from the other films, or events hinted at in the other films in our film, we must be very careful with that and closely examine the impact on the effectiveness of both our own film as well the other films.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, we must look at the strategic point of view in this and how other films may be affected. I have overlooked that, sorry. Even twisting facts a tiny bit can be a nightmare for the rest of the films.

Everyone, i meant by new ideas in the sense of adding a line here or there to help clarify the situation, or lengthen the scene..."fluff" as its known.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I never was good at judging ages, so take my numbers with a grain of salt. Jack being 39 in the first film actually makes my point more important, because that gives us 40 years in which the main events of Jack's life might've taken place. The chance of all of them happening within the same six months are slim to none.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good, i would say this would be at about late 20's early 30's of his life. Sorry for anyone in a different country, i dont know if you see american movies, but i am referring to these actors. Have you ever noticed the good old actors are all aging? Johnny Depp, Al Pachino, Denzel Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, Morgan Freeman, Jeremy Irons, The D'Onofrio guy from Law and Order CI. Tom Cruise is getting old, but who gives a crap about him? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" /> Mwahahaha, but anyways the list goes on, and they are being replaced by increasingly bad actors, dumb blondes in hollywood, and egocentric megalomaniac men who try to make money. Horrible little world we're living in, but for the most part the older actors managed to keep their good names clean, because their golden days were before chicks started getting boob jobs every year, and people started going anorexic, like Kiera Knightly. Aaaah...the good old days.

Anybody plan to see that movie with Depp in it, Sweeny Todd? Depp is by far one of the best actors i have ever seen, he is able to switch roles instantly, and play them flawlessly.
 
Here's another few drawings of Jones. (Assuming i dont use up all of my space) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

<img src="http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/Mercer122/Jones1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

<img src="http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/Mercer122/Jones22.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

<img src="http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/Mercer122/Jones23.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />


NO MORE DRAWINGS OF JONES, these are the only ones i have, I also might post one of Admiral Norrington, The Commodore would like it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> It needs some cleaning up though. The bottom Jones is a cleaned up more detailed version of the original, and the others are new. Sorry for the crappy quality, scanners...you know, they take the detail out of the drawing.
 
<!--quoteo(post=232862:date=Jan 7 2008, 05:01 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 7 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]232862[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Good, i would say this would be at about late 20's early 30's of his life. Sorry for anyone in a different country, i dont know if you see american movies, but i am referring to these actors. Have you ever noticed the good old actors are all aging? Johnny Depp, Al Pachino, Denzel Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, Morgan Freeman, Jeremy Irons, The D'Onofrio guy from Law and Order CI. Tom Cruise is getting old, but who gives a crap about him? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" /> Mwahahaha, but anyways the list goes on, and they are being replaced by increasingly bad actors, dumb blondes in hollywood, and egocentric megalomaniac men who try to make money. Horrible little world we're living in, but for the most part the older actors managed to keep their good names clean, because their golden days were before chicks started getting boob jobs every year, and people started going anorexic, like Kiera Knightly. Aaaah...the good old days.

Anybody plan to see that movie with Depp in it, Sweeny Todd? Depp is by far one of the best actors i have ever seen, he is able to switch roles instantly, and play them flawlessly.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They are all aging, but are still damn good. Harrison Ford is still playing Indiana Jones in his sixties! Way to go! Only he can play him.
We do have good actors and actresses in their early 30s and 20s (DiCaprio, Winslet and Natalie Portman come to mind) but unfortunatley, on the overrated and the prima donnas get all the attention.

I went to see Sweeny Todd right before New Years, a damn good film. Depp, of course, was excellent again, and he used a slight variation of Jack's voice for the character. Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman were very good as well. Check it out, although you may never go to barber again for a shave. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" />

BTW, I like HtC as well. We have our own acronym! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
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