<!--quoteo(post=232265:date=Jan 5 2008, 10:59 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 5 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]232265[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Showing it wouldnt do anything to COBP just in COBP the talking of it could fill in quick crammers on the series. I think it would be cool to show the cursing and the mutiny. Whats a good pirate film without a mutiny? You have to agree on that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="
" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It definitly WOULD do something, I'm afraid. And a big something too. If we know at the end of the prequel that Jack lost his ship to Barbossa, it removes a lot of the surprise from CotBP.
Let's pretend we end the film with Jack going after the treasure of Isla de Muerte. First thing we see of Jack in the next film is him entering Port Royal on a sinking boat. Now that would have the audience quite surprised*: why isn't Jack on the Pearl? What happened to that treasure he went after? And only gradually do we find out what actually happened. I consider that one of the main strengths of CotBP. I recall being in the cinema and trying to understand what was going on, what had happened. Because clearly something had happened before that films. By the beginning of the film, everything was a mystery, but by the end of the film, everything was clear. I really liked that movie-going experience and I think we should do nothing to diminish that.
I think everything in CotBP is pretty well explained and will need no further showing. DMC and AWE are another story though: these definitly DO need some more explanation. Mostly when it comes to Beckett and Davy Jones.
As for having a mutiny: Well, we <i>could</i> have a mutiny somewhere else. Remember at the end of AWE, Barbossa's crew seems somewhat uncomfortable with leaving Jack behind. Again. So they ask to see the location of the treasure they're after. Mirror this with Barbossa asking Jack for the location of the treasure of Isla de Muerte and the subsequent mutiny. I definitly see some similarities here and I do think that Barbossa's crew was intending to commit mutiny at that point. So we could have a mutiny at the beginning of the AWE sequel, putting Jack back on his ship with a relatively trustworthy crew (they stood up for him, didn't they), leaving Barbossa in the same way as he had left Jack twice before. This would then set up Barbossa as the bitter and angry bad guy again, which is, after all, what he does best. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dev.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":d:" border="0" alt="dev.gif" />
* Provided that they've never seen CotBP yet; and I really DO think we should assume that at some point people will watch them in order, which we must take into account.
<!--quoteo(post=232276:date=Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]232276[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes... then we could have Sao Feng and the <i>Empress</i> cross paths with Jack then, to preserve the coolness of Singapore in AWE. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="
)" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ah; the Empress as well. Good idea; we didn't see enough of that ship in AWE either. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="
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<!--quoteo(post=232276:date=Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Jan 6 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]232276[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And yes... apparently Jack has something of a reputation amongst the Asian ladies in AWE... I wonder... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="
" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Have you seen the extra features on the AWE DVD? Most specifically the backstories of the Pirate Lords? Here it is confirmed that the insult Jack paid to Sao Feng indeed did have something to do with the ladies. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="
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<!--quoteo(post=232299:date=Jan 6 2008, 01:36 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Jan 6 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]232299[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"Apparently you've never been to Singapore,"
<i>Jack Sparrow to Murtogg and Mulroy, COBP</i><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Good point. Clearly Jack did visit Singapore before. However, he doesn't necessarily need to visit Singapore in our prequel film. First of all, it'd require additional screentime and would serve no real story purpose. We don't really <i>need</i> Singapore for our story, do we? Secondly, it would spoilthe surprise in AWE. That is one of the reasons I suggested we visit Indonesia in the first place: We do get the Oriental/Asian influence, so we do get a hint to Singapore, but we don't actually go there so we don't spoil AWE. Instead we see something we <i>haven't</i> seen before (or won't see in another film to come; depending on how you look at it).
We don't need to show everything in this one prequel. I'm not sure of Jack's age by the beginning of CotBP, but I think it must've been about 25-30. Not all important things in his life have happened during the six months of our film; they happened throughout his life and only some of it happened during our film. Do you remember the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? Within the first 15 minutes of the film, we've seen the explanation to just about everything about Indiana Jones: How did he get his hat, how did he get his whip, even how he got his scar on his chin. I found a person saying on the internet that young Indy must've been <i>really</i> impressionable right then. I think that person was right and I think we shouldn't go that route here. We should choose very carefully about what to show and what not to show. And I would personally choose to not show anything that does not explain a big mystery or contributes to the story or the fun. Better to show too little than to much, I think.