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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

Adding to whomever said this, about the Church of England idea he is chased and what not, then goes into the SPanish Military Armory and grabs an officers uniform thus impersonating an officer in the spanish royal navy. He will of course be discovered when someone speaks spanish to him, and he is like "What?".
 
BTW, are we all okay on Mercer's latest installment? I'd like to add some lines, but only if we are agreed on it.
 
<!--quoteo(post=221523:date=Nov 14 2007, 04:44 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 14 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]221523[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Adding to whomever said this, about the Church of England idea he is chased and what not, then goes into the SPanish Military Armory and grabs an officers uniform thus impersonating an officer in the spanish royal navy. He will of course be discovered when someone speaks spanish to him, and he is like "What?".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ah, you mean combine the two? In Jack's own words, "That would be interesting."


Spanish: ¿Cuál es su nombre?

Jack: I'm Captain Jack Sparrow.

Spanish: ¿Habla usted español?

Jack: Umm. ¿Dónde están los wenches en?

Spanish: Un impostor! Get él! Get él!

Jack: Sorry mate, that's all I know. (Runs off)
 
<!--quoteo(post=221466:date=Nov 14 2007, 03:28 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 14 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]221466[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the North pointing down would be the most obvious way to do it. I also really like Jack turning to sea and saying "No, that can't be right", then turning the map right side up, just like Gunsmith suggested. Jack actually stepping into the water might be a bit over the top. Even a somewhat loony person would notice when the background looks blue rather than green. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly. Its hard to resist the temptation to try and milk the joke for all its worth and to keep improving on it, but we have to know where to cut off the scene before we go overboard, as it were, with the gag. In this case, shorter is better. Like Pieter pointed out, we can then sprinkle little bits like that all over the script. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
ahoy mateys!

Glad you liked my idea with Jack confusing the map side and all.
Nice scene of Jack on boats you have there.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Like Pieter pointed out, we can then sprinkle little bits like that all over the script.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I totaly agree <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BTW, are we all okay on Mercer's latest installment? I'd like to add some lines, but only if we are agreed on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Let's see 'em.
 
<!--quoteo(post=221559:date=Nov 14 2007, 10:20 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 14 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]221559[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah, you mean combine the two? In Jack's own words, "That would be interesting."


Spanish: ¿Cuál es su nombre?

Jack: I'm Captain Jack Sparrow.

Spanish: ¿Habla usted español?

Jack: Umm. ¿Dónde están los wenches en?

Spanish: Un impostor! Get él! Get él!

Jack: Sorry mate, that's all I know. (Runs off)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL!! Good one! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
Aye Old salt lets see those lines! I only write the scene so to set the groundwork to improve on.
 
I had another thought for the script. Why does Beckett need Jack to go and collect the slaves? I came up with a possible answer: It is Tia Dalma he wants, but he doesn't want anyone to know that she's important. Therefore he stages the whole thing as a slave transport, while it is actually just the capture of Tia Dalma that matters to him. Why does he want Jack to do it? Because Jack already knows Tia Dalma and is the only person to have the map that leads to her village. So he pretends that he is giving Jack another chance out of the "goodness of his heart", but in reality it is a trick to get to Tia Dalma. This will also explain why Jack has a map in the joke scene Gunsmith came up with and adds some tension to Mercer saying that Jack can hand over the map now. It's just a random thought; what do you think?

<!--quoteo(post=221557:date=Nov 15 2007, 05:01 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 15 2007, 05:01 AM) [snapback]221557[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BTW, are we all okay on Mercer's latest installment? I'd like to add some lines, but only if we are agreed on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The latest installment was the dinner scene with Jack and Edwards. I think that needs quite some changes as I posted <a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=220698" target="_blank">here</a>. Actually, I would propose a different kind of scene where Jack deliberately invites both Edwards and Mercer for dinner in order to make a good impression and to get to know them better.

<!--quoteo(post=221559:date=Nov 15 2007, 05:20 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 15 2007, 05:20 AM) [snapback]221559[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah, you mean combine the two? In Jack's own words, "That would be interesting."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Personally I would have opted for showing one of them and leaving the other up to the audience's imagination, just for the sake of not showing everything. However, I have to admit that since it all happens in a Spanish town, Jack imposing as an officer of the Spanish Royal Navy would fit into the story rather well. The Cleric of the Church of England thing wouldn't fit in quite as easily, though would be MUCH more amusing. Therefore I think we should insist on putting that into the film. Jack in monk's clothes being chased by an angry mob through the streets of a Spanish town is just too much fun to ignore. That being said, we could also add the Spanish officer thing in there. After all: It would make sense.

<!--quoteo(post=221559:date=Nov 15 2007, 05:20 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 15 2007, 05:20 AM) [snapback]221559[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Spanish: ¿Cuál es su nombre?

Jack: I'm Captain Jack Sparrow.

Spanish: ¿Habla usted español?

Jack: Umm. ¿Dónde están los wenches en?

Spanish: Un impostor! Get él! Get él!

Jack: Sorry mate, that's all I know. (Runs off)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->LOL! Sheer brilliance! That scene must go into the script! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />
Is that Spanish entirely correct? "Get él" sounds like it's made up. Though it sounds wonderfully funny as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
That's a nice ideat Pieter...the one with Beckett wanting Tia Dalma.
But maybe he just wants to transport slaves to work somewhere...with no specific reason.

And about Cleric and officer... lets use just one of those. If ever start writing second prequel we can use other one.

And for that trip to Africa... I had this scene in my head yesterday:
-Its night. Jack is standing on deck all alone and Nathaniel comes and than they talk. It's the moment where Jack can show his emotions. You know...how he loves the sea and ships and stuff. And Nath asks him why he works for Beckett and Jack has no idea. So that could be the first time he thinks of betraying Beckett.
What do you think?


One more thing...Its about Jolly Roger. If Jack meets him...he wouldnt be supernatural character. He was human at that moment. But again... we could leave it for second prequel.
 
pieter's idea about beckett sure sounds like something becket would plan out, in my opinion.

i don't think there's going to be a second prequel, although i do agree only one of the two should be used.
 
<!--quoteo(post=221618:date=Nov 15 2007, 07:24 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Nov 15 2007, 07:24 PM) [snapback]221618[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->pieter's idea about beckett sure sounds like something becket would plan out, in my opinion.

i don't think there's going to be a second prequel, although i do agree only one of the two should be used.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


There wont be? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
I saw somewhere here that you were planing to make three of them.
 
The problem with just using one of the two is that the officer in the Spanish Royal Navy would be easier to work into the story, but the cleric of the Church of England would be much more amusing. Therefore I really want to go with the cleric thing. But how to work it into the story, I don't really know. I thought that Jack could act as cleric of the Church of England and ask for the help of the Spanish priests or something like that. But then he would play an English character and we wouldn't have the conversation Old Salt came up with. I just really want to see Old Salt's scene in the script, as well as Jack in monk's clothes being chased by an angry mob. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

As for multiple prequels: I would be fine with just one prequel to CotBP (to see Jack's younger years and explain some questions) and one sequel to AWE (to see Jack accepting life for what it is). Additional films would be fun, but I would be fine with just having those two and the current films. Five films is a bit of an odd number to end a series of films on, but PotC IS odd, is it not? I would love to stop at five and never make a sixth. That way nobody could ever refer to it as two finished trilogies (like Star Wars) and people would always keep coming up with stories for that "missing sixth film". <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=221614:date=Nov 15 2007, 07:18 PM:name=gunsmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gunsmith @ Nov 15 2007, 07:18 PM) [snapback]221614[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And for that trip to Africa... I had this scene in my head yesterday:
-Its night. Jack is standing on deck all alone and Nathaniel comes and than they talk. It's the moment where Jack can show his emotions. You know...how he loves the sea and ships and stuff. And Nath asks him why he works for Beckett and Jack has no idea. So that could be the first time he thinks of betraying Beckett.
What do you think?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Great one! That would work very nicely for Jack and Edwards becoming friends. Plus it would give us the opportunity to explain Jack's character a bit more. I also like your suggestion of Jack having no idea why he works for Beckett. That sounds pretty much like Jack.
<b>Edwards:</b> "So why <i>do</i> you work for the EITC if you like your freedom so much?"
<b>Jack:</b> "You know what? I have NO idea."

I can just picture Johnny Depp delivering that line perfectly. Of course my original thought was that Jack was doing it for the extra income through the salary he would gain. So Jack would be running of on errands of his own and making profit that way, but would also still be in the employ of the EITC, thus getting more money. So basically a double pay. But your idea is much more interesting, I think. Simple, yet effective. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
perfectly blunt. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
What is? Am I? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=221523:date=Nov 14 2007, 10:44 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 14 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]221523[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Adding to whomever said this, about the Church of England idea he is chased and what not, then goes into the SPanish Military Armory and grabs an officers uniform thus impersonating an officer in the spanish royal navy. He will of course be discovered when someone speaks spanish to him, and he is like "What?".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think that would be the way to incorporate the Church of England and the Spanish officer stories. Unfortunately with this chain of events, Jack would be chased by an angry mod while in the Spanish officer uniform and not while in monk's robes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
jack's answer. i love it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=221656:date=Nov 15 2007, 01:07 PM:name=Morgan Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Morgan Terror @ Nov 15 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]221656[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->maybe we could use salty's text for something else. maybe.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like Old Salts better than mine, i just put that "what?" in because i didnt think to put anything else in. And Pieter didnt i mention Beckett wanting Dalma some ways back? Well if i didnt then I did in my head. And yes Pieter for the umteenth time, i only write these scenes so to get us on track and to add lines to it, not to actually set anything in stone, i knew from the start that it would have to be re-written.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Edwards: "So why do you work for the EITC if you like your freedom so much?"
Jack: "You know what? I have NO idea."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOL!! I can see him saying that too. Good one Pieter!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

And yes Morgan, Beckett is described by the writers as cold and <i>calculating</i> there for he always tries to see what he can get out of things like it is all part of his master plan, that is the near definition of calculating, and therefore Beckett.

Old Salt, are ya almost done with those lines matey?
 
<!--quoteo(post=221577:date=Nov 15 2007, 08:19 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 15 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]221577[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I had another thought for the script. Why does Beckett need Jack to go and collect the slaves? I came up with a possible answer: It is Tia Dalma he wants, but he doesn't want anyone to know that she's important. Therefore he stages the whole thing as a slave transport, while it is actually just the capture of Tia Dalma that matters to him. Why does he want Jack to do it? Because Jack already knows Tia Dalma and is the only person to have the map that leads to her village. So he pretends that he is giving Jack another chance out of the "goodness of his heart", but in reality it is a trick to get to Tia Dalma. This will also explain why Jack has a map in the joke scene Gunsmith came up with and adds some tension to Mercer saying that Jack can hand over the map now. It's just a random thought; what do you think?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It may be a random thought, but I like it. We know Beckett is cold and calculating, and this helps explain why he decided to keep a captain on who otherwise by his actions was just begging to be sacked. Also, though Beckett has a singular target in Tia Dalma, it would make sense that to disguise his true intentions he would set up an elaborate scheme and use Jack as a patsy.

<!--quoteo(post=221577:date=Nov 15 2007, 08:19 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 15 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]221577[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=221557:date=Nov 15 2007, 05:01 AM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Nov 15 2007, 05:01 AM) [snapback]221557[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BTW, are we all okay on Mercer's latest installment? I'd like to add some lines, but only if we are agreed on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The latest installment was the dinner scene with Jack and Edwards. I think that needs quite some changes as I posted <a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10925&view=findpost&p=220698" target="_blank">here</a>. Actually, I would propose a different kind of scene where Jack deliberately invites both Edwards and Mercer for dinner in order to make a good impression and to get to know them better. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's what I was talking about. I know Mercer posted up a rough draft to get some feedback and you gave some detailed ideas and now we are having some others kicking in with their ideas so it seems that the process is working and perhaps now Mercer can draft another scene incorporating some of these ideas and we can go from there.

<!--quoteo(post=221577:date=Nov 15 2007, 08:19 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 15 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]221577[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is that Spanish entirely correct? "Get él" sounds like it's made up. Though it sounds wonderfully funny as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sometimes the made up stuff is funnier, though I believe that is Spanish for "Get him!" or "Get he!" depending on the translation. I was just going to have Sparrow keep repeating his name to the questions the Spaniard was asking, but then I thought about it and it would seem to me that the one line in Spanish that Jack would know would be, "Where are the wenches?" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=221667:date=Nov 15 2007, 06:01 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Nov 15 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]221667[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Old Salt, are ya almost done with those lines matey?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mercer, I was thinking maybe that with some of the new ideas that came up since you wrote the last draft, especially Pieter's and Gun's, that you could maybe write up an updated scene and then I could add to that one. What do you think?
 
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