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[Dylan Of Gibraltar]

An escort mission with lafeat,taking some spanish ship juno and some captain from San Juan PR to Martinique and back.I did but the mission never worked and the juno and crew got stuck to me but could'nt handle as one of my own ships.No time limit bytheway on mission. Also funny thing in trying to fix that i.e. i tried to find the captain a=of juno and kill him,in middle of sea out of martinique(well out not near port)i hit tab for fast travel and went to juno and could'nt find that captain anywhere.I also found that i could go to port with fast travel even when i was way out and when i hit ft to port i found myself in martinique port and not being able to do anything but had ship controls and only vocal like put sail down and such.Funny and could only exit by loading out to previous save.

 

[Dylan Of Gibraltar]

Yes i went to port and moored went to Juno and killed the captain and got -2 reputation change and when i saved the game crashed??

 

[Hylie Pistof]

That sounds like the Vigila Mendez escort mission. It is very buggy but I thought it had recently been worked on. It worked fine for me when I did it a few days ago.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Got this> RUNTIME ERROR - file: seadogs.c; line: 731
Save - ARef to non existing attributes branch

Those happened even in the unmodded game. Seem to do no harm.

That sounds like the Vigila Mendez escort mission. It is very buggy but I thought it had recently been worked on. It worked fine for me when I did it a few days ago.

Hasn't been touched. Should be working, but sometimes doesn't.

 

[Hylie Pistof]

Ah, I forgot that. Then save very often!

 

[Talisman]

If it is the Virgila Mendez escort mission - then you actually have to go to the store in Martinique talk to Mendez there then sail back to Puerto Rico and go to the store in San Juan and talk to Mendez there for the quest to function properly.

Mendez does not meet you in the Port unlike the normal escort quests.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Installer updated with new stuff:
http://piratesahoy.net/build/b14_beta3_installer.exe

Build 14 Beta 3.1 WIP:
- PiratesAhoy! Logo opening video updated by Diperscitus and Thomas the Terror
- Bug Fixes:
  . Corpsemode 3 fixed by Levis
  . Random prison commander dialog file added by Pieter Boelen
  . Nevis Pirate Settlement Leader dialog check fixed by Pieter Boelen
  . Period governor model code fixed by Pieter Boelen
- Gameplay Updates:
  . Fetch Quests added by Levis
  Works in Alice Town, Grand Cayman, Speightstown, Philipsburg and Tortuga by talking to Tavern Owner
  . Blackjack Updated: Ace now counts as 1 and 11. Also allows double up by Levis
  . Only player ship gets collision damage by Pieter Boelen
  . Realistic Game Mode: All Sail-To locations open up when you have a map of the island by Pieter Boelen
- Code Updates:
  . Checks if character can sail ship after officer transfer and if you can command a fleet by Levis
- Storyline Updates:
  . Standard storyline Hitman sidequest timers fixed by Talisman
  . Standard storyline Nigel Blythe sidequest not dependable on mainquest anymore by Levis
  . Bartolomeu storyline dialog errors fixed by Levis
  . Hornblower storyline model code fixed by Pieter Boelen
  . Jack Sparrow storyline appearance of Annamaria fixed by Pieter Boelen
- Model Updates:
  . Blaze armor models added and updated by SuperDurnius
  . Rigging improved on Waller Pinnace by Hylie Pistof
  . Rigging improved on XebecAS by Hylie Pistof
  . Darker sailor textures at sea by Nethaeru
- Modder Tools:
  . Build version written to compile.log as per an idea by Levis

 

[Dylan Of Gibraltar]

Yes i went to store at San Juan i did'nt see that prick Vigilio.Not in martinique store either.

 

[Hylie Pistof]

If he does not show up at the Martinique store, then he will not show up at San Juan.

Save often! I save well before going into port so that if he doesn't show in the store I can start over from there instead of going back to the last port.

You have to make sure his ship stays close to your ship, especially when dropping anchor in port. I wait until he furls his sails and stops.

Sometimes it takes 2-3 attempts before he shows at both stores. Be patient.

 

[priatnia]

Is there any special reason that these Beta 1 ships are missing from Beta 3 :





Especially the last one and the first were perfect ! Maybe not most detailed but that galleon was much better than some of the old ships still in game. And the 1600s still need more ships ! To that all old frigates are missing, some of which were very cool. Like these:



Can I enable them somehow ? Does the game allow to go above certain number of ships ?


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[Pieter Boelen]

We removed a lot of sub-standard ships when we cleaned up the game folders.
Two reasons: Filesize and also a more consistent quality. Those ships just didn't hold up compared to all the new ones we added.
You can put them back from Beta 1 if you really want to.

That first one filled the same place that is now taken by the Revenge.
That last one looks like one of those tremendously sub-standard VCO models.

 

[Hylie Pistof]

Those ships pictured were either replaced by far far better models or they simply fell below the always rising standards of the ships in POTC. Several of them were indeed VCO ships.

 

[priatnia]

I don't know. The galleon looks quite detailed

And the Lydia even has a boat hanging

This one is perfect for the poor roster of the 1600s and is in no way worse than any Pinnace in game:


These ones I am not sure if are missing, but if they are ...


And this is similar to the NL_Batavia and someone probably mistook it for it and erased /Sirius1/... Tho not best detail has interesting curves/shape.


What is VCL ships ?


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[Pieter Boelen]

VCO = Ships sourced from Voyage Century Online. The ones we originally included did have detail added to them by us, because originally they really were ugly.
There are a few of them left, most notably the Batavia and SotL. They fill spots in the ship variety that we don't have anything else for.
But the other ones that DO have higher-detail models with the same purpose have been removed.
Admittedly doesn't work wonders for variety, but variety at the expense of quality is not what we're after.

Of the two specific ones you mention:
- The first is the "US_Enterprise" and is still in the game.
- The second is a schooner-rigged version of the galeoth; it was removed because we've got plenty schooners as it is.
Several of which look much, much better. The "US_Enterprise" and "US_Hannah", for example.

 

[Hylie Pistof]

1. The old English Galleon has missing hand rails and very poor detailing around the deck. Sail the ship and walk around the deck. It is a poor model.

2. The Lydia has a bad walk file and is not shaped like any real frigate ever built.

3. That ship is a pure fantasy ship with poor detailing and a very bad walk file that has you unable to move or see over the railings.

4. Those are the Enterprise and a Galeoth and they are both in the game.

5. That was the Sirius. It was a VCO ship and falls well below any reasonable visual level with things like 2d hand rails.

You should play beta 1 and check those ships out for yourself.

VCO = Voyage Century Online.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

4. Those are the Enterprise and a Galeoth and they are both in the game.

Not that particular skin of the galeoth though. We only kept the two best ones.

 

[Armada]

Is there any special reason that these Beta 1 ships are missing from Beta 3 :

We generally believe in quality over quantity, and that's why several sub-standard vessels were removed.
Clearly you believe the opposite (how you can still want the old frigates back despite my replacement model is beyond me ).

In the worst cases, as Hylie points out, some of the ships had gameplay issues, hindering the player's sight and movement in first person view.
So while they may have been (barely) nice enough to encounter and look at, they were awful to sail, and hardly worth upgrading when we had brand new models instead.

 

[priatnia]

A Galeoth with a cabin is a must. Hell I would go to a quest to find such The two remaining let you soak with rain

I believe in quality+variety. And as long as 2/3 of the old ships with same detail as the frigates remain in game, I wonder how you choose to keep to your principle.

If I copy back the folders of some of these ships /Models/Ships/ together with their paragraphs in Program/Ships/ships_init will that be enough to reappear ?

Tho who removed the AOP 1st rate did a favour to mankind . Remarkably ugly ship.

 

[Hylie Pistof]

When someone makes a new ship it replaces an old ship. But first someone has to make that new ship.

If you want a Galeoth with a cabin, why don't you make it? Then we could retire the old one.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

If I copy back the folders of some of these ships /Models/Ships/ together with their paragraphs in Program/Ships/ships_init will that be enough to reappear ?

That should work. But you need to copy the relevant texture files too.
You might run into some issues, because some of the ships were renamed and the like. But you'll find out soon enough if that is a problem.