Build 14 Alpha 9

Bonaire · Apr 6, 2009

Yea, but the irony of the whole story is, i found this albatross after the successfully boarding of an pirate ship in a box in the in the captain's cabin...
What a bad, bad sign... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/8q.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :8q

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Grega · Apr 6, 2009

Put it into the box in your cabin and sell the ship?

Pieter Boelen · Apr 6, 2009

There is just ONE WAY you are SUPPOSED to be able to get rid of it. And that's not it.
It is a special way specifically intended to rid yourself of albatrosses. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

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Thomas the Terror · Apr 6, 2009

Would be cool if when you find an albatross, you should lose all your crew. And then become immortal, like in the poem <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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Pieter Boelen · Apr 6, 2009

That'd be... extensive. And evil. VERY evil! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :shock

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Schalkepirat · Apr 6, 2009

Maybe you need the book: Cooking with albatross, so you maybe fly in your next fight?! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Grega · Apr 7, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 6 2009, 08:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311407"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>There is just ONE WAY you are SUPPOSED to be able to get rid of it. And that's not it.
It is a special way specifically intended to rid yourself of albatrosses. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /></div>

Board a ship and when you get to the captain put it in his chest then do waht you allways do but dont take the ship ^^

Maybe give it to one of them"No hope" priests.

Thats about all i can think of :s

LarryHookins · Apr 7, 2009

You're not supposed to be able to put it in a chest at all. Or give it to an officer.

Hook

vinnipuk · Apr 7, 2009

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />

started a new game with patch 2........
error log enabled........

i got 6 CTD at the very beginning of the game, one after one, straight where it hurts so much. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

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some new ships got bad ropes:
<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 22) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 207165740? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 15) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 203704996? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 16) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 203704996? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 0) (begin group=0, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 6) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 203565588
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 5) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 203565588
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 17) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 203241012
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 112) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 203273948? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 113) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 203273948? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 114) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 203273948? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 55) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 205910972
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 12) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 210654412
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 8) (begin group=-1, end group=0)
Begin pointer = 212734668? end pointer = 0
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 18) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 212965148
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 19) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 212965148
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 20) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 212965148
Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 21) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 212965148
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx
Island Set
Fader::Init() -> Fader already created, fade out phase
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx</div>

i dunno what this error means:

<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>Warning: NPCharacter -> trace node not found
Warning: NPCharacter -> trace node not found
Warning: NPCharacter -> trace node not found
Warning: NPCharacter -> trace node not found
Warning: NPCharacter -> trace node not found
Warning: NPCharacter -> trace node not found</div>

anchored in dowesen, i`ve found a nice new ship with a Lion painted on the arc.
that ships was enormous, HALF on the water, HALF on the bench.
then i got a CTD again:

<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx
Can't load texture resource\textures\SHIPS\BL50.TGA.tx</div>

in Redmond, same problem:
i`ve found a biiiiiiiiiiiig ship, half of it crushing and fagocitating people on the bench.
then CTD:

<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>Bad rope data for rope: (rope num = 55) (begin group=0, end group=-1)
Begin pointer = 0? end pointer = 206139484
Ship Boat doesn't have fire places
Can't load texture resource\textures\.tx</div>

i`ve bought a new ship, it` s a Fleut Snow, there were two of them in the shipyard, the one with more cargo and less HP it`s the one on which my avatar`s enjoying himself.
however i `ve found out that i was not able to buy more than 27 unit of food.
the merchant got 900 unit, i could buy all the other merchandises with no limit, but the food only 27.....
anyone can say sth about it ?
should i be worried? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" />
in Dowesen i arrived to the Pirate Fort by walk, but i was able to leave the place on my ship, this should not happen, mmh?
but the very interesting thing is that, when leaving there are 2 Dutch warships sinkin` pirates, but not the fort, which is targeting.....the pirates!!!!
pirates VS pirates???
maybe another script for pirate forts should be written?

small, but annoying bug:
when chasing two ship, often the player need to target one, just because they split and go in opposite directions.
i always choose the bigger, and after 40 minutes of real battle against a 4 masted galleon a big "HUZZAH" is heard: the pack brig surrendered.
after rotating the visual camera, i could not see that darn ship!
even in the build 13 happened that a very distant ship raised the white flag!
in another case a big ship with 75% of the crew still alive (more than 200 men), just the sails 50% torned, and full firepower gave up after a long "battle".
the AI should be refined, don`t you think? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="<_<" border="0" alt="dry.gif" />

thanks for reading.
vinni.

LarryHookins · Apr 7, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vinnipuk @ Apr 6 2009, 07:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311478"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>when chasing two ship, often the player need to target one, just because they split and go in opposite directions.
i always choose the bigger, and after 40 minutes of real battle against a 4 masted galleon a big "HUZZAH" is heard: the pack brig surrendered.
after rotating the visual camera, i could not see that darn ship!
even in the build 13 happened that a very distant ship raised the white flag!
in another case a big ship with 75% of the crew still alive (more than 200 men), just the sails 50% torned, and full firepower gave up after a long "battle".
the AI should be refined, don`t you think? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="<_<" border="0" alt="dry.gif" /></div>
Ships don't surrender because you've shot them up, they surrender because their morale is low. And probably a dozen more reasons I don't know about. As far as I know, the morale calculations are working properly.

You couldn't see the surrendered ship visually, but he was on your radar. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have surrendered... unless possibly he sailed close to another enemy ship. That one annoyed me too, and I made some changes which help, but there's only so much that can be done to fix it. If you get between two ship, sometimes one will surrender. Use that to your advantage.

Hook

Jason · Apr 7, 2009

[<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>quote name='Pieter Boelen' date='Apr 6 2009, 05:11 AM' post='311299']
Those person-specific bugs are REALLY annoying! It seems that things that work fine for one person, don't work for everyone else. WTF???
For example, I haven't EVER had my savegames without pictures. Nor do I get lag when just walking around.
I've never had a crash upon going to the worldmap either, since the fixing of the midnight CTD bug.
The crazy thing is: I installed Alpha 9 as per the installation instructions and compared the result to my own game version and it is the same.
If all the files are the same, shouldn't the results for everyone be the same too? But noooo..... weird things happen all the time anyway! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :modding

" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /></div>

Pieter,

I really can't figure this out either although if I am the only one haveing these problems I am inclined to think this is something going on on my end not with the game. I at first thought that it might be an installation error and after three tries I relatively convinced that I have got that done correctly. Now I am wondering if there is some error in my build 13 final version and if that is ok, I am wondering if maybe a hic cup occurred during the download of Alpha 9 or the patch or, although not very likely, that maybe I got an earlier version of the download that wasn't finished.

I used to be pretty good at play testing and finding bugs, but when I can't get the basic features of game play to work it is really difficult to contribute much.

So what do you think of my hypothethes about the souce of the problems I am having. Any ideas on how to solve the problem. I am going to try to test build 13 next and see if I get the crashes. Then I thought I would re-download every thing and try a clean install again. Could you recomend a specific download site if you think that will help.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

PirateSword · Apr 7, 2009

do i have to start new game after i install patch 2?

Grega · Apr 7, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Piratesword @ Apr 7 2009, 10:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311503"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>do i have to start new game after i install patch 2?</div>

That would be prefferable yes ^^

Pieter Boelen · Apr 7, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vinnipuk @ Apr 7 2009, 02:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311478"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>in Dowesen i arrived to the Pirate Fort by walk, but i was able to leave the place on my ship, this should not happen, mmh?
but the very interesting thing is that, when leaving there are 2 Dutch warships sinkin` pirates, but not the fort, which is targeting.....the pirates!!!!
pirates VS pirates???
maybe another script for pirate forts should be written?</div>How did you leave the pirate town by ship?
There is just one fort in 3D sailing mode on Douwesen and it's the Dutch one.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hook @ Apr 7 2009, 04:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311482"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>You couldn't see the surrendered ship visually, but he was on your radar. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have surrendered... unless possibly he sailed close to another enemy ship. That one annoyed me too, and I made some changes which help, but there's only so much that can be done to fix it. If you get between two ship, sometimes one will surrender. Use that to your advantage.</div>Maybe the surrender chance should decrease as the distance between ships increases?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jason @ Apr 7 2009, 05:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311487"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Pieter,

I really can't figure this out either although if I am the only one haveing these problems I am inclined to think this is something going on on my end not with the game. I at first thought that it might be an installation error and after three tries I relatively convinced that I have got that done correctly. Now I am wondering if there is some error in my build 13 final version and if that is ok, I am wondering if maybe a hic cup occurred during the download of Alpha 9 or the patch or, although not very likely, that maybe I got an earlier version of the download that wasn't finished.

I used to be pretty good at play testing and finding bugs, but when I can't get the basic features of game play to work it is really difficult to contribute much.

So what do you think of my hypothethes about the souce of the problems I am having. Any ideas on how to solve the problem. I am going to try to test build 13 next and see if I get the crashes. Then I thought I would re-download every thing and try a clean install again. Could you recomend a specific download site if you think that will help.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.</div>I sincerely wished I knew how to help you, but I'm completely lost.
Other people are also reporting some of the weirdest bugs ever (eg. losing all your icons when pressing the Spacebar; that's reported by someone on the ModDB).
I simply haven't got a clue what's going on. The download site shouldn't matter; if a download is corrupted, it shouldn't be installing <i>at all</i>.
I'm almost considering just burning my game version on some DVDs and sending those to the people who have the worst troubles,
but that would be really time-consuming on my part and I'm already severely limited in my available time.
Not to mention it'd be a legal slippery slope, especially if everybody starts asking for that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :modding

" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />

Bonaire · Apr 7, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Apr 7 2009, 12:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311451"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe you need the book: Cooking with albatross, so you maybe fly in your next fight?! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /></div>

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rofl

" border="0" alt="24.gif" />...after you've cooked the ablatross, i do not think he will fly again...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 7 2009, 10:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311505"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe the surrender chance should decrease as the distance between ships increases?</div>

Would be advisable, a ship, that has the prospects to escape, why should it surrender?
I have often noticed that shipÂ´s, which are all ready about 1000 yards away, still surrender after some time.

But, i would not call this a bug, maybe itÂ´s because the crewÂ´s morale is sinking or foot rations are low...
Also, could it be, that my ship has aÂ´n higher speed so it would catch up the other ship?

Pieter Boelen · Apr 7, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jesus of Bonaire @ Apr 7 2009, 11:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311517"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schalkepirat @ Apr 7 2009, 12:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311451"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe you need the book: Cooking with albatross, so you maybe fly in your next fight?! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /></div> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rofl

" border="0" alt="24.gif" />...after you've cooked the ablatross, i do not think he will fly again...</div>But... you still haven't found it. You need to look around a bit in a certain stock-game British town.

Grega · Apr 7, 2009

What the apothecary?

Pieter Boelen · Apr 7, 2009

Have you ever tried? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

Bonaire · Apr 7, 2009

There is a pharmacy at one of the islands? I should explore those landÂ´s a bit more...
Btw, where is the house of pleasure, i heard of that thing in the feature list but didn't find it jet... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sleep.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="-_-" border="0" alt="sleep.gif" />

Pieter Boelen · Apr 7, 2009

There's several: Nevis pirate town, Guadeloupe port and Tortuga, if I recall correctly.
Not sure if they're turned off by default; they might be. In Build 13 they are, but they might accidentally have ended up being enabled in Alpha 9. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :facepalm

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Build 14 Alpha 9

Landlubber

Landlubber

Navigation Officer

Mad Pirate

Navigation Officer

Master Mariner

Landlubber

Buccaneer

Sailor Apprentice

Buccaneer

Buccaneer

Landlubber

Landlubber

Navigation Officer

Landlubber

Navigation Officer

Landlubber

Navigation Officer

Landlubber

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