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Limiting ships to certain nations

Thanks, Thomas! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
great thomas!
and about the sloop of war, do what you want to... I wont bother you again.. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="<_<" border="0" alt="dry.gif" />
 
got a bit too smothered with facts? i know that feeling. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=219737:date=Nov 1 2007, 09:55 AM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Nov 1 2007, 09:55 AM) [snapback]219737[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->some ships shouldn't get the nation attribute in my opinion, like the cutter, sloop, yacht, barque, and maybe other small ships. frigates and corvettes shouldn't be used by spain in my opinion, but i'm not sure wether or not that would be historically correct.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree absolutely. Also, some ships should be different nations, because in the Napoleonic naval era, ships changed hands very requently, esp. the British capturing Frogs and Dons.
 
That makes things a lot more complicated. For now I just want to set the national and year limitations right. Would be nice for some future update though. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
And, taking into consideration we have undead pirates ingame and we strive to have Davy Jones&Co there as well, I don't think we should be concerned with historical accurancy that much <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I think we should be concerned with historical accurancy just for as far as it contributes to the gameplay. Preferrably history buffs should be able to play the game as well and be able to pretty much ignore the supernatural stuff by not playing the quests.
 
hang on.... i know that version of nelson. remind me, what was it you've made in the build mod? i'm sure you where mentioned somewhere.
 
What are you talking about? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

I updated the shipslist page <a href="http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/ships.htm" target="_blank">here</a>. I am now halfway done with listing all ships in my game.
 
<!--quoteo(post=221958:date=Nov 17 2007, 04:31 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 17 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]221958[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I updated the shipslist page <a href="http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/ships.htm" target="_blank">here</a>. I am now halfway done with listing all ships in my game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


NICE Pieter! Those French ships looked good! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
Is there a Colonial Corvette or Brig? And where's the Colonial Fast Schooner? (Or is the list incomplete?)

I think that there should be a colonial set, some may not exist yet, but they are ones that I think should be skinned.
Colonial Fast Schooner
Colonial Brig-of-War
Colonial Sloop-of-War
Colonial Light Frigate (Corvette model)
Colonial Frigate (FrenchFrigate model)
Colonial Super Frigate (Amsterdam model - only lower gundeck has white stripe... we were able to stack the corvette's hull, can we shave the quarterdeck off to make her a flush decked razee?)

Speaking of the <i>Amsterdam</i>... do you remember the HeavyWarship2? It was a BritishWarship painted black with red rail trimmings... she would be PERFECT for the <i>Bonhomme Richard</i>! (She only needs the straight bowsprit.) Think she could be added as a unique ship? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />

I know I'm asking a lot here, but the list is more of a daydream to save for a rainy day. If it is undertaken to add these, I'm here to consult!
 
<!--quoteo(post=221997:date=Nov 18 2007, 08:22 AM:name=Captain Patrick)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Captain Patrick @ Nov 18 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]221997[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->can somebody give me the galeonW skin, mine is a Flying Dutchman skin..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Those French ships that are credited Seb, are edited by me, remember Pieter <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=221978:date=Nov 18 2007, 04:52 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Nov 18 2007, 04:52 AM) [snapback]221978[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is there a Colonial Corvette or Brig? And where's the Colonial Fast Schooner? (Or is the list incomplete?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I am only halfway done with the list. I am doing it alphabetically by ship model folder name and next in line is the Gunboat. So I haven't gotten up to the Schooners yet. The Colonial Schooner does still exist and there are several other Colonial ships as well.

<!--quoteo(post=221978:date=Nov 18 2007, 04:52 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Nov 18 2007, 04:52 AM) [snapback]221978[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Speaking of the <i>Amsterdam</i>... do you remember the HeavyWarship2? It was a BritishWarship painted black with red rail trimmings... she would be PERFECT for the <i>Bonhomme Richard</i>! (She only needs the straight bowsprit.) Think she could be added as a unique ship? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Was that one of the ships Seb did? Was she released? I have only one Heavy Warship and one Superior Warship model in my game. Perhaps you are talking of the Superior Warship by Kazeite? What is the <i>Bonhomme Richard</i>? If we were to make her unique, where should she be used in the game? I wouldn't want to make a ship as good as that one completely unavailable. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=221997:date=Nov 18 2007, 08:22 AM:name=Captain Patrick)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Captain Patrick @ Nov 18 2007, 08:22 AM) [snapback]221997[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->can somebody give me the galeonW skin, mine is a Flying Dutchman skin..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->See attached.

<!--quoteo(post=221999:date=Nov 18 2007, 09:53 AM:name=Thomas the Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thomas the Terror @ Nov 18 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]221999[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Those French ships that are credited Seb, are edited by me, remember Pieter <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->No, I don't remember that. I know you added them into the game, but I didn't know you also edited them. In any case: You'll just have to correct me when I put incorrect things on there. I don't remember everything, but I'll update the page according to the comments I get. Would "By Seb, modified by Thomas the Terror" be OK with you?
 
The <i>Bonhomme Richard</i> (Originally the <i>Duc'de Doras</i>) was a Dutch merchantman purchased by the French India Company. However, she is more widely known as the ship that Benjamin Franklin purchased and gave to Captain John Paul Jones. She was the ship he took into batte against the HMS <i>Seraphis</i> on September 23rd, 1779 - The Battle of Flambrough Head. (Which, I might add, has finally been considered the bloodiest sea battle in age-of-sail history. Jones was shin-deep in blood by the time the battle was over! The scuppers were flowing and both ship's sides were "bleeding"!)

She's got the perfect look for the <i>Richard</i>: a large ship that was once a merchantman, pierced with forty-four gunports and mounting a rat-tag assortment of different weighted guns. A sort of 1760s sailplan, and a good flagmast for the "JPJ Flag".

<img src="http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/_Commodore_John_Paul_Jones/Bonhomme_Richard_large_day_stern.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

If you don't want to make her unavaliable to one and all, you don't have to do this. Or perhaps you could edit the stats and gunports, bowsprit and add staysails... then make her an additional ship? And as to her being unique, I guess there really isn't a place for her quest-wise... but then again, there's the <i>Amsterdam</i> and the "Davy Jones" corvette.
 
That indeed looks to be Kazeite's Superior Warship. I don't mind making her unavailable, as long as she's actually used somewhere. So would you have any thoughts on where to use her? A quest? A certain character? Something?

The Amsterdam is used as Pieter's ship in the game, but should also be encounterable at random. The Cursed Corvette so far isn't used anywhere, but we'll find some purpose for that one. I had the idea to replace the Black Pearl at the end of the original main quest with the Cursed Corvette, because with the new film main quest, the Black Pearl has no business being here anymore.
 
A suggestion/idea for a quest (that I admit is far, far, FAR out historywise and geographically from the context in this Build) could be something like that episode in the Horatio Hornblower series where an american ship is trying to smuggle in two French noblemen from the americas...

Bit then again... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
Perhaps John Paul Jones could be put ingame somewhere as a sort of bonus character on a French island somewhere, like the Mary Wood character on Tortuga. Jones had the tendency to operate for the Continental Navy on an international scale, preferring to take the war to the enemy and operate out of France while his fellow officers liked to stay at home and prowl the Colonial coast.
What if you reached a certain rank serving with the French as an American (If you choose to fly the nuteral/American flag and use the colonial ships)... lets say Captain... then the French governor wants to introduce you to a fellow patriot who is newly arrived to wage war against England. Jones offers to sail with you, for there are safety in numbers... in addition, he wants to have another blow at Havanna (He sailed with Commodore Barry in the Havanna mission as a lieutenant).
We could use the Spanish captain character model for Jones, as it closely resembles his Continental Navy uniform. Your boarder models would be Continental marines, etc.
 
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