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Morgan Terror said:
i think you're not seeing the walls properly because of the shading. they do have actual thickness. you can see it on the ports at the left of the picture. i do think though that the planking looks a bit odd on the inside of the wall. it's realistically done on the outide, but the inside is a bit unrealistic. you've created the illusion of a bit more structure on the outside than you've done for the inside, in the sense of vertical beams.
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Yep, thats not finished now, will be worked next.
 
Morgan Terror said:
i think you're not seeing the walls properly because of the shading. they do have actual thickness. you can see it on the ports at the left of the picture. i do think though that the planking looks a bit odd on the inside of the wall. it's realistically done on the outide, but the inside is a bit unrealistic. you've created the illusion of a bit more structure on the outside than you've done for the inside, in the sense of vertical beams.
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Does something like this pleases the eye?
 
well, to me, galleons and similar ships look Massive to me,massive, impressive structures, some of them, with the tower-like sterns look really hughe.
elegance i would look for in a surprise, or in a hmm, a constitution... where the lines of the profile are homogen, with no big superstructures. sleek. fast. straight ^^
its taste. we could debate that forever.
OTOH, a galleon looks more graceful than, say, an early Kog or something...
to me.
today.

in a few years, when i am old and senile i will tell you that Golden Hind was the most disgusting piece of cardboard ever floating the sea, and the Wasa so ugly that the waters and the winds teamed up together - the wind to push her over, and the waters to give way, so that this abomination should dissapear forever.
XD

in short: what do *I* know? Noffing!

i can see the thickness of the planks. but , to my eye, wether this is a lighting or a polygon thing, it looks like the gunport is closed with a large plank.
if its not like that, then all is better than i thought.
 
i prefer that look of the sides by quite a bit. however, one thing i'm starting to worry about is how you're going to handle the way the game handles masts, decks, and inner walls as seperate pieces. at least, that's how i understand it.
 
negative. i think we are talking about different cannons.

the ones i mean are the lower ones, and the proposed "cone" or "pyramid" to create "depth" i attempted to draw in white, the cone goes towards the inside of the ship.
to "replace" the "flat panel" that appears to close off the area (in orange).


is that picture understandable? does it make sense?


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:shrug :nk :hmm
(jeese, the pic is too big... the ideas i had are on the right part of it... copy to your desktop if necessary)
 
i'm not sure, but i think you might be seeing the inside of the hull, or the deck on which the gun sits.
 
I made 1 of the pyramids and gave it a black color.



as far as i know, all objects of the scene ( hull, masts, deck, cannons,...) are in one file "shipexample.gm" or so. Ähm i looked just now in the batavia1 directory and saw different .gm's for the parts. Ok, no problem then, too. I save em in separate files and then voila it should work. Or not? did I make sense?
 
That looks really good! I wish we could fix a couple of our other ships that have that same problem like the Raa Frigate.

MK
 
About splitting the model up, please see this tutorial for what you need to do: http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?showtopic=12178&st=0#entry274871
It's best to leave splitting it up until the model is finished, I'd say. That way, everything will fit seamlessly when assembled in the game. ;)

One more thing, I don't think you should use a red deck.
For the sake of consistency, I'd recommend using a similar colour to the rest of the ships' decks, just so your ship doesn't stand out too much.

Other than that, I love the progress you've made! :bow
 
modernknight1 said:
That looks really good! I wish we could fix a couple of our other ships that have that same problem like the Raa Frigate.

MK
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Did you mean the pyramid thing, MK? That should be really easy if you can load the model in maja, or other 3D prog. Connect the corners of the box through edges and then pull the crossing vertex a bit into the hull. Make a plain black texture ex. 32x32. and assign it. That should be all for it. Unfortunately i have'nt maja to open the files. Therefor someone other has to make it. BTW i will need help to convert my Revenge later...

@Armada:
snip, snap .... now its brown. xD:
And many thanks for the link to the tut. I have'nt found it before.
 
Yep, the RAA and the grey plates inside the gunports... where i noticed it the first time ever.
the result is visible - how it affects the model all in all we will see in the game.
i am just glad i was understood... such things are not always easy to explain.
Happy you are picking up so many ideas, Nightwatcher.

I am relatively new to this Game, and i hope that the ideas i have, make sense from a modeling point of view, from a gaming point of view and suchlike.
looking at the screenshots, then thinking about them, trying to find suggestions, is, with limited knowledge, sometimes difficult.
 
i liked the red deck. but it had indeed crossed my mind that all the other ships didn't have it.
 
HundertzehnGustav said:
Yep, the RAA and the grey plates inside the gunports... where i noticed it the first time ever.
the result is visible - how it affects the model all in all we will see in the game.
i am just glad i was understood... such things are not always easy to explain.
Happy you are picking up so many ideas, Nightwatcher.

I am relatively new to this Game, and i hope that the ideas i have, make sense from a modeling point of view, from a gaming point of view and suchlike.
looking at the screenshots, then thinking about them, trying to find suggestions, is, with limited knowledge, sometimes difficult.
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I am glad that i get here much ideas as i'am new to the 3d modeling. And it is always good to have another opinion to hand as you could not think of all aspects in the modeling process.


Morgan Terror said:
i liked the red deck. but it had indeed crossed my mind that all the other ships didn't have it.
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One of the three paintings could have it applied, also i need to juggle with the texture files. So we have a bit more variation in game.
 
What? Not let this ship stand out from the crowd? Let it be outstanding! :razz The ship it will be replacing is one of the very worst ships in POTC, which is also one of the most common ships in POTC. Let her shine.
 
aw, i like the stock galleon. it's not that pretty, but it's HUUUUUUUUUGE. seriously, have you ever seen that thing next to a corvette?
 
LOL. Many times matey. I sink those things because they hurt my eyes they are so ugly. They are ugly because they are poorly made. Even Craiggo's reskins only makes them look ok at a distance. Those English Galleons are one of the few ships I refuse to sail.


This one I will sail with pride. :cheers
 
Morgan Terror said:
aw, i like the stock galleon. it's not that pretty, but it's HUUUUUUUUUGE. seriously, have you ever seen that thing next to a corvette?
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Have you ever been to the Vasa(or Wasa) museum in stockholm. That is a really huge pile of wood. But a beautiful one, too. Lenght over all ca. 60 meter.

Hylie Pistoff said:
LOL. Many times matey. I sink those things because they hurt my eyes they are so ugly. They are ugly because they are poorly made. Even Craiggo's reskins only makes them look ok at a distance. Those English Galleons are one of the few ships I refuse to sail.


This one I will sail with pride. :cheers
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I am sorry to say that, but this is one reason why i attempt to rebuild her.
 
not the vasa, but i've seen the mary rose. and the victory, batavia, amsterdam, the warrior, the cutty sark before it went down, and a brigantine which still serves as an active merchant vessel to the east indies and such.
 
what? cutty went down? You gots to be Joking... :wacko:

crossed her in london a few years back on my way to belfast. HMS - Belfast that is.
Like that dutch ship that burned at its pier a few years back... such things make my eyes water...

Mai 2007, vermutlich durch einen defekten Staubsauger, zu einem Brand, bei dem der Schiffsrumpf weitgehend ausbrannte.

*holds breath*
:shock

*shakes head*
:sad
 
that would be german. they're rebuilding the cutty though, i think. the idea was at least considered, but i don't know of what they decided.
 
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