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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

<!--quoteo(post=219217:date=Oct 28 2007, 07:02 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 28 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]219217[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually, we could add the stealing of Annamaria's boat as scene AFTER the end credits. Remember how all the films have a scene after the end credits? We would need to make it both short and funny though. Just showing Jack stealing a boat is a bit of a bummer. So perhaps we should show Annamaria running from the tavern, screaming "Oh no, you won't!" or something like that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's brilliant, Pieter! I love it! Yes, it would need to be funny, but it would be a blast if we do it right. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=219381:date=Oct 28 2007, 10:30 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Oct 28 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]219381[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=219217:date=Oct 28 2007, 07:02 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 28 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]219217[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually, we could add the stealing of Annamaria's boat as scene AFTER the end credits. Remember how all the films have a scene after the end credits? We would need to make it both short and funny though. Just showing Jack stealing a boat is a bit of a bummer. So perhaps we should show Annamaria running from the tavern, screaming "Oh no, you won't!" or something like that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's brilliant, Pieter! I love it! Yes, it would need to be funny, but it would be a blast if we do it right. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
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LOL!! That would be hilarious now that i think of it!
 
<!--quoteo(post=219382:date=Oct 28 2007, 11:31 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 28 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]219382[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->LOL!! That would be hilarious now that i think of it!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It would. I think that would be great. I had wanted to get that scene in there but was concerned like everyone else about the time factor, but I think Pieter just solved it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=219361:date=Oct 29 2007, 12:48 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 29 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]219361[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And Pieter, did i ever say i didnt like your script or your time sheet? No, i didnt i would never say, "Well, thats got to be the stupidest idea i have ever heard of," because you have NEVER come up with stupid ideas. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> No idea is stupid, the stupid idea is the one that is not mentioned.

And i love Indiana Jones, so i am just making that point. K? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Don't worry. I was just explaining my thoughts more thoroughly. So? Any thoughts on my thoughts? "g1

<!--quoteo(post=219347:date=Oct 28 2007, 10:49 PM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Oct 28 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]219347[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->he never was a captain. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> seriously now, it would be funny if they would accept that name, not knowing where we got it from. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Perhaps he BECAME a captain after serving with Nathaniel Hawk. That indeed <i>would</i> be funny. And silly for those who DO know where that name came from. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
Gentlemen and Officers,

Managed to see AWE at the weekend for the first time. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />

Realise how stupid some of my suggestions were - Bear with me, I will catch up. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

Plan to watch all 3 back to back to see if I can get a better idea what is going on.

Only thought that comes to mind is, I can't remember how Barbossa's crew and Jack ended up dead in the first place.

I seem to remember them fighting as skeletons in the first film.

Pretty monumental thing being dead I guess. Can someone enlighten me quickly, otherwise I will have to wait till tomorrow for wifey to go to work. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bird.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yoho" border="0" alt="bird.gif" />
 
They are "undead" because of the curse of the Isla de Muerte treasure. Whoever takes a coin out of that chest will become cursed to not feel anything, to look like a skeleton in the moonlight and to live forever. The only way to counter the curse is to return all the coins to the chest and for the blood to be repaid (every person who took a coin out of the chest must shed some of his blood).
 
EDIT: All Doomsday-related discussion has been removed from this thread.
 
Oi, so everybody, i need ideas for the dinner with Jack, and Edwards what will happen? I need a few ideas so i know what direction i am going in the script.

Sorry, Pieter for the doomsday thing, it was just interesting and i thought i might share it.
 
<!--quoteo(post=219298:date=Oct 28 2007, 11:18 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 28 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]219298[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My idea with my Mexico/Yucatan thing is this:

Jack ends up in a ship-to-ship battle between the Wicked Wench and a much larger ship commanded by the French pirate (name?). Jack then orders the firing of the cannons on the wrong side, the ship heels over and Jack steps from the Wench's yardarm onto the deck of the other ship. Jack goes to challenge the French captain to a duel, while the Wench's crew board the French ship. After a spectacular swordfight between Jack and the French captain, with the Wench's crew fighting the French crew in the background, Jack wins the duel. Rather than killing the captain, the two of them decide to work together. The French has heard of a lost Mayan treasure and they both want to find it.

First they have to go to Mexico. They make port in a Spanish town. I want to show a Spanish town just because it looks nice. There they find out more information, possibly a map, about the treasure they seek in the tavern, church or library. Then they go into the jungle with the map and find the Mayan pyramid. Inside they learn that the gold coins are no longer there, because they were stolen by Cortez. Dead end. Returning to their ships, they are attacked by either Spanish soldiers or indians, but they manage to get away. Not sure if the Spanish or the indians should be friendly to Jack. In any case: There will be a fight here that gives Jack the idea to cause mayhem for the EITC. Now that they can't find the treasure, he decides to go do something else and sets sail for Indonesia. The French captain thinks this is sheer folly and they part their ways. Perhaps this character can return in the AWE sequel. Or perhaps it is actually Armand the Corsair, one of the pirate lords.

I wouldn't actually mind it if the Mexico jungle/temple part would be somewhat similar to Indiana Jones. I like Indiana Jones. That being said, Mayan treasure goes very well with pirates as well. Especially when they use a treasure map. In any case: It would be an interesting thing to add halfway into the film. The audience shouldn't get bored, so we want to show them a lot of interesting stuff. A short treasure hunt would certainly be very piratey and would add some interest to an otherwise possibly boring middle part of the film. I think the whole "treasure hunt with French pirate" part of the film should play about 30 minutes, so that's not too long. It will explain how Jack learned the ropes of piracy and will also explain why Jack has such an interest in the Isla de Muerte treasure: He wanted to find it earlier, but couldn't because it was stolen. Later he finds out he can use his compass to lead him there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like what you have there, Pieter, especially the part about the French pirate possibly showing up in the AWE sequel. I agree that it would help explain Jack's interest in the Isla de Muerte treasure. The middle of the film wasn't necessarily going to be boring since we would have come up with some idea, and I think we have it mostly here now. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=219470:date=Oct 29 2007, 08:38 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 29 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]219470[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oi, so everybody, i need ideas for the dinner with Jack, and Edwards what will happen? I need a few ideas so i know what direction i am going in the script.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, will Edwards share what he knows about the mission with Jack over some rum at dinner? Will this be where Jack starts to get disillusioned with Beckett and his chosen profession? Do they both share a certain distrust of Mercer and does Jack, in a subtle manner, try to persuade Edwards to leave Beckett and join him?
When they reach their destination, this is where Jack knows for certain he cannot stomach Beckett's plans and strikes off on his own. But on the journey there he is only toying with the idea.
 
Personally I would think that Jack wouldn't have much knowledge on what his task is really about until it's too late and it is already happening. As suggested by Commodore John Paul Jones in his book opening, Jack has been running off on his own errands even while in the employ of Beckett and possibly the only reason he was working for Beckett was because he could make money with his own errands AND he would get a salary on top of that. Sure he wants to keep that situation of double pay, so until Jack really knows what Beckett is about, basically he is just using Beckett to get more money. So Jack is loyal to Beckett because of the money until he finds he can no longer serve Beckett. I would think that during the voyage to Africa, Jack and Edwards get to know each other and Edwards tells Jack something about Mercer's reputation. This makes Jack somewhat wary, but doesn't give a full clue on what to expect. Then they arrive in Africa and the villagers are captured and loaded aboard the Wench by Mercer and Edwards with Jack only able to look flabbergasted. On the way to the Caribbean, Jack is conflictednon what to do. Obviously he is not happy with the villagers being captured, but still he prefers to stay in the employ of Beckett, either because Jack was an honourable man to begin with OR because of the double pay. This is something we never make clear and is for the audience to make up their minds about. In any case: Jack decides that this is the time to break with Beckett and sets free the slaves upon arrival in the Caribbean.

<!--quoteo(post=219470:date=Oct 30 2007, 02:38 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 30 2007, 02:38 AM) [snapback]219470[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sorry, Pieter for the doomsday thing, it was just interesting and i thought i might share it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->You can make it a seperate thread if you really have to.
 
Gentlemen and Officers,

Have Edwards and Mercer sailed together previously?

Was Mercer a slaver before entering Beckett's employment?

Did the officers drink Port at dinner not Rum? Perhaps they run out of Port and this is where Jack discovers Rum, he may not like it at first, but it will soon grow on him.

Perhaps the Rum bottle is becoming dangerously low at the dinner table and Jack has to employ some devious tactic to hang on to what is left.

Maybee Edwards knows that Jack has been running some private errands on EITC time and warns him to keep a weather eye out for Mercer who is looking for proof to report back to Beckett.

Perhaps Jack goes below looking for some more Port and is puzzled by the layout of the hold? Clearly the set up as a slaver is quite different to that of a frieghter. Who changed it, was it Mercers men? Perhaps he asks Edwards about this who tells him not to ask too many questions, doubts begin to creep into Jack's mind

I imagine Edwards will warn Jack not to cross Mercer as he is a dangerous character, though he may not be willing to give specific details.
 
I imagine that if Jack is a GOOD captain, he would know his hold was rebuilt before leaving port. I imagine any good captain would do a check of his ship before leaving and that would be a hard thing to miss. Still you make a valid point: A merchant ship WOULD have a different interior layout to a slave transport ship. We know, however, that the Wicked Wench is a merchant ship by nature. Perhaps the transport would not involve so many people as to require a whole rebuild of the ship's hold. Perhaps the transport only involves thirty people or so?
 
one thing that has come to my mind is the guy that says 'that must be the best pirate i've ever seen' and 'do you think he plans it all out, or makes it up as he comes along'. what about him? he appeared in two movies already. i was thinking about him being edwards, but that's impossible when he's dead of course.
 
It is not the same character: In CotBP it is Lt. Gillette, but in AWE it is, I think Lieutenant Groves. It is not the same actor either, by the looks of it. I would be very surprised if Gilette had seen Jack before. Groves might've had some past dealings with Jack, but not to such an extent as Nathaniel Edwards would have. Also we might want to refrain from putting in TOO many recurring characters. Just the ones needed for the story and possibly a couple just for fun, but not too much. It could become a cameo-fest. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=219510:date=Oct 30 2007, 02:45 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 30 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]219510[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I imagine that if Jack is a GOOD captain, he would know his hold was rebuilt before leaving port. I imagine any good captain would do a check of his ship before leaving and that would be a hard thing to miss. Still you make a valid point: A merchant ship WOULD have a different interior layout to a slave transport ship. We know, however, that the Wicked Wench is a merchant ship by nature. Perhaps the transport would not involve so many people as to require a whole rebuild of the ship's hold. Perhaps the transport only involves thirty people or so?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hi Pieter,

I had visions of someone nailing some manacles to the ribs as clearly they could not have refitted as a slaver without Jack noticing.

I have heard of large boxes (room size) being placed on the deck to transport slaves or prisoners, how true this was I don't know.

Perhaps they stop off on route for this to happen and Jack begins to realise what he is involved in.
 
<!--quoteo(post=219558:date=Oct 30 2007, 02:11 PM:name=jacarutu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jacarutu @ Oct 30 2007, 02:11 PM) [snapback]219558[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[Hi Pieter,

I had visions of someone nailing some manacles to the ribs as clearly they could not have refitted as a slaver without Jack noticing.

I have heard of large boxes (room size) being placed on the deck to transport slaves or prisoners, how true this was I don't know.

Perhaps they stop off on route for this to happen and Jack begins to realise what he is involved in.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aye, i have heard of that as well, but i think jack might be suspicious about what 45 empty crates cluttering up the weather deck are for. That might work if we stick to what Pieter said about the shipment being about 30-40 people, Calypso being one of them (at least in my script). And maybe during dinner, Edwards can warn Jack of Mercer. Jack should see Mercer as a quiet assistant to Lord Beckett. Edwards after running a few missions with Mercer in the past might warn Jack of his true personality, a cold blooded killer, but will not release why Mercer is in fact here on the mission.
 
I would think that just by Jack's nature he would be curious as to what this mission is about (and would be very suspicious of Mercer's presence on this mission) and would pump Edwards for information. Whether he gets any out of Edwards is what we have to decide but I think he would at least get a few morsels of information. Jack Sparrow would not be satisfied with being kept in the dark.
 
<!--quoteo(post=219510:date=Oct 30 2007, 10:45 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 30 2007, 10:45 AM) [snapback]219510[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I imagine that if Jack is a GOOD captain, he would know his hold was rebuilt before leaving port. I imagine any good captain would do a check of his ship before leaving and that would be a hard thing to miss. Still you make a valid point: A merchant ship WOULD have a different interior layout to a slave transport ship. We know, however, that the Wicked Wench is a merchant ship by nature. Perhaps the transport would not involve so many people as to require a whole rebuild of the ship's hold. Perhaps the transport only involves thirty people or so?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, I always assumed that the number of slaves would be low since the Wicked Wench is not a slaver, but if that is the case how is it that Beckett is making any profit on them?
 
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