Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

DAS123 · Oct 11, 2007

This is not a really good source, and i wouldnt reccomend it due to the dirty possibilities is might bring up, but using Limewire on MUSIC would be a good way to get the song right now. Just type in Pirates 3 At wits end. It has to be that way or the "search is too specific". If you dont have limewire and or dont want to keep it just go to google to type in limewire, download it from the sight, then uninstall it when you download the song. Thats what i did. Because i dont really like limewire

Thats only if you just want to get the song without paying, if you want the soundtrack by all means get it. Thats what i would reccommend over Limewire.

Old Salt · Oct 11, 2007

Yes, my brother uses Limewire and is always telling me about it when I see him and I agree with you that it is a dirty source because what your actually doing is trolling through someone elses hard drive to download stuff and who knows what your downloading along with the program. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

morgan terror · Oct 11, 2007

it's usable, as long as you know how to avoid all the nasty stuff. always scanning the stuff you download is always a good idea of course, but you should never download anything of under 1 MB unless you know it should be that size. that's got virus written all over it. anyway, i know what soundtrack section you're talking about.

one thing i've just come up with is this: anyone remember the bit in the first movie when the guy at the gallows says that jack impersonated a priest and a naval officer? maybe that could be of some use in the prequel.

Pieter Boelen · Oct 11, 2007

LOL. We could try to explain some of it. But not all.

Another camera shot I would like to see is a ship beign filmed from the water with the camera <i>on</i> the water, looking up at the ship. Or perhaps a shot of the bow cutting through the sea also taken from right above the surface of the sea.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 10 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]217279[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>That would work. I always dont understand some battle scenes. Like Singapore for instance in AWE, it is so fast paced that i cant even tell what is going on, you know like those dramatized scenes on documentaries that they badly re-enact i feel like i am a drunk man watching them it is so blurry. Lets try to slow down things a bit during any battles. Not too much like in 300 with every stroke of a sword the screen goes into slow motion. Lets try to get it like the Battle for the Dauntless in COBP it was paced excactly how i would like it. This should be taken into account when developing battles.</div>I agree with you on that. We don't need to go slow-motion. I always find that takes me out of the movie experience. Examples are parts of the action in Cutthroat Island. But we definitely do want to show what is going on. It's really annoying in modern films that there is just a lot of quick camera-work which looks good and exciting, but you can't really follow what's going on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Oct 10 2007, 02:12 AM) [snapback]217280[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>TWhen we get into the climatic battle, they should have a few "war" shots. These would be shot with hand-held slow shutter cameras to make the film have gritty, dull colors and give it a shaky effect. It heightens the intensity of battle and makes it shocking. These shots wouldn't be quick like the "mind blowing" scenes of AWE, but rather as if someone were following the characters or ships with a camera. That way, the shots would be slow-paced and long enough to awe us, yet seem very intense and shocking.</div>That would be cool. I can see it already: "War" style shots of the crew fighting aboard the ships, loading cannons and being blown to smithereens being mixed with shots of the ships sailing around and firing on each other. In such a way that it is clear to the audience where all the ships are and what the strategy is. I am thinking perhaps it would be interesting to even show the admiral of the fleet trying to judge the strategic situation and deciding where to move his ships in order to gain the advantage. Show the audience that the battle is not just faught in numbers, but also for a great part in positioning the pieces (ships) in the most tactical way.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 11 2007, 12:19 AM) [snapback]217329[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>That is just something i thought of it doesnt matter if you like it or not, i just want to put it out there. It is not making is TOO over dramatic, but it adds to the drama of the scene. Then in the later movies like DMC where there is not a lot of Dutchman vs. other ship action that could ba explained because if you watch it in chronological order we will have seen the Dutchman in her glory, and we will know all that she can do.</div>Sounds interesting. I'd like sme newly composed music though. I don't like it when in scores parts are reused. For example "Barbossa is Hungry" being back for more in the finale of DMC. Personally I find that the score for a film can do a lot to make or break it. I like a lot of relatively bad films a lot simply because of their music. Best example here would be Cutthroat Island: The film is OK but the music is the best music I have ever heard in a pirate film. Sorry Hans, but as enjoyable as parts of Pirates of the Caribbean might be, Cutthroat Island is in a league of its own... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :wp

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Commodore John Paul Jones · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Another camera shot I would like to see is a ship beign filmed from the water with the camera on the water, looking up at the ship. Or perhaps a shot of the bow cutting through the sea also taken from right above the surface of the sea.</div>

An idea for a shot that I've always had floating around: The camera is passing under the keel of a ship, showing us the growth on the underhull. As is passes to the side of the ship, it looks up and the hull vibrates, dull thunder can be heard. Then the camera pans up to see massive reflections on the water from the flash of guns, the water suddenly loses its glassy look as it becomes rough with a million splashes and splinters riddling the water... then a shadow that grows larger, a yardarm, torn sail, and shattered mast suddenly plunge into the water at the camera.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Personally I find that the score for a film can do a lot to make or break it. I like a lot of relatively bad films a lot simply because of their music. Best example here would be Cutthroat Island: The film is OK but the music is the best music I have ever heard in a pirate film. Sorry Hans, but as enjoyable as parts of Pirates of the Caribbean might be, Cutthroat Island is in a league of its own...</div>

I second that! The Cutthroat Island score is literally unrivaled in its thrilling air if adventure and swashbuckling power! We need Zimmer to compose a brilliant score here. I like the thrilling pieces in AWE's soundtrack like "Up is Down" and the wedding part [6:46 - 9:00] (The segment from 7:19 - 7:46 really stands out. Now that embodies the thrill and excitment of a sea battle!) of "I Don't Think Now is the Best Time".

For the major sea battle at the end though, something that sounds slightly militaristic, with the drums of war, would be good. Again, "I Don't Think Now is the Best Time" comes to mind, with the segment from 0:00 to 2:55 being perfect for a battle between the formidable nations of the world.

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Oct 11 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]217400[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>An idea for a shot that I've always had floating around: The camera is passing under the keel of a ship, showing us the growth on the underhull. As is passes to the side of the ship, it looks up and the hull vibrates, dull thunder can be heard. Then the camera pans up to see massive reflections on the water from the flash of guns, the water suddenly loses its glassy look as it becomes rough with a million splashes and splinters riddling the water... then a shadow that grows larger, a yardarm, torn sail, and shattered mast suddenly plunge into the water at the camera.

I second that! The Cutthroat Island score is literally unrivaled in its thrilling air if adventure and swashbuckling power! We need Zimmer to compose a brilliant score here. I like the thrilling pieces in AWE's soundtrack like "Up is Down" and the wedding part [6:46 - 9:00] (The segment from 7:19 - 7:46 really stands out. Now that embodies the thrill and excitment of a sea battle!) of "I Don't Think Now is the Best Time".

For the major sea battle at the end though, something that sounds slightly militaristic, with the drums of war, would be good. Again, "I Don't Think Now is the Best Time" comes to mind, with the segment from 0:00 to 2:55 being perfect for a battle between the formidable nations of the world.</div>
Did you listen to "I Dont think nows the time" from 2:50 to...um...4:18 i think it is, not sure though. I really like that part, its the music when the Endevour is being destroyed. I do like the wedding part as well. Yes that part from 0:00 to 2:55 with my part 2:55 to 4:18 would maybe be nice.

<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">But did you guys ever listen to "At Wits End" from 4:00 to 6:00. The full orchestra Davy Jones part is from 5:12 to 6:00. Also how do you guys like my idea of using Jone's musicbox tune on a sad tone wth the violin on B flat? Then to be taken over by his Musicbox also on B flat. There is no sound of battle, just the music. And guys being blown off ships, splinters being blown down the decks. I really think showing a 104 gun ship being raked from about 5 feet from the deck would be an amazing shot. Just a thought. </span>

Old Salt · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Oct 11 2007, 12:24 PM) [snapback]217355[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>one thing i've just come up with is this: anyone remember the bit in the first movie when the guy at the gallows says that jack impersonated a priest and a naval officer? maybe that could be of some use in the prequel.</div>
I forgot about that. We don't want to have to try to fit all the little bits of Jack's past into the prequel, but those two tidbits do sound interesting. Particulary because they are mentioned as crimes against Jack and he does have a reaction to them. Perhaps one of these impersonations can be used when he "sacked" Nassau.

Old Salt · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 9 2007, 07:41 AM) [snapback]217195[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>Very good Old Salt, i will modify my script to accomodate that immediately. I did see that you had posted those lines that you liked from my earlier script. Where sparrow walks in and beckett says "Ah, nice of you to show up" "I had a little help" says Sparrow while glancing nervously at Mercer. I will definately include that in the next scene.</div>
Mercer, is the next segment going to deal with just Beckett berating Jack and with Edwards introduced to Jack as his equal at the end of the scene?

Old Salt · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 11 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]217402[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">But did you guys ever listen to "At Wits End" from 4:00 to 6:00. The full orchestra Davy Jones part is from 5:12 to 6:00. Also how do you guys like my idea of using Jone's musicbox tune on a sad tone wth the violin on B flat? Then to be taken over by his Musicbox also on B flat. There is no sound of battle, just the music. And guys being blown off ships, splinters being blown down the decks. I really think showing a 104 gun ship being raked from about 5 feet from the deck would be an amazing shot. Just a thought. </span></div>
I guess you really want a comment on this. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> Like I said, I love the idea of the music just playing, and the scene you describe would certainly keep eyes glued to the screen. And some of the others suggestions about where the camera should be positioned as the ships pass certainly will make the scene all the more original should the filmmakers decide to implement them. We can brainstorm about it though later when we have progressed further in the script but we should be mindful that we could wind up spending a lot of time thinking up some spectacularly visual scenes that wind up not being filmed.

Pieter Boelen · Oct 12, 2007

I thought I DID comment on that, Mercer. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

As far as my camera shots are concerned: They are not meant specifically for the battle. I'd just like to have them while the Wicked Wench is underway. There is another camera shot that I once came up with a long time ago. It is meant for the opening shot of a film and probably wouldn't work with our story here, but I thought I'd share it anyway:

The screen is black. The music kicks in starting quietly. The black becomes less total and it is shown that the camera is underwater, just above the sea floor. The camera moves forwards and upwards towards an island. Louder and louder the "bangs" of an overhead ship-to-ship battle are heard. The camera passes below the two battling ships while cannonballs and debris are seen dropping to the sea bottom. The camera continues moving forward, leaving the ship-to-ship battle behind. The island is approached and the camera raises from the water to soar slowly over the island. As the music builds into a majestic statement of the main theme, the title of the film appears on the screen while the entire beautiful island is shown in the background. Once the title disappears, the camera flies towards the island, coming closer and closer until it stops on a bunch of pirates cutting themselves through the jungle. Note: The camera does not ever pan sideways during this shot: It only moves forwards and upwards.

I think the above camera shot would be an awesome way to start a pirate film. But probably not this one.

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I guess you really want a comment on this. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> Like I said, I love the idea of the music just playing, and the scene you describe would certainly keep eyes glued to the screen. And some of the others suggestions about where the camera should be positioned as the ships pass certainly will make the scene all the more original should the filmmakers decide to implement them. We can brainstorm about it though later when we have progressed further in the script but we should be mindful that we could wind up spending a lot of time thinking up some spectacularly visual scenes that wind up not being filmed.</div>
Old Salt you are okay, you have commented before this was for the other guys.

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 12 2007, 04:21 AM) [snapback]217425[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>I thought I DID comment on that, Mercer. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

As far as my camera shots are concerned: They are not meant specifically for the battle. I'd just like to have them while the Wicked Wench is underway. There is another camera shot that I once came up with a long time ago. It is meant for the opening shot of a film and probably wouldn't work with our story here, but I thought I'd share it anyway:

The screen is black. The music kicks in starting quietly. The black becomes less total and it is shown that the camera is underwater, just above the sea floor. The camera moves forwards and upwards towards an island. Louder and louder the "bangs" of an overhead ship-to-ship battle are heard. The camera passes below the two battling ships while cannonballs and debris are seen dropping to the sea bottom. The camera continues moving forward, leaving the ship-to-ship battle behind. The island is approached and the camera raises from the water to soar slowly over the island. As the music builds into a majestic statement of the main theme, the title of the film appears on the screen while the entire beautiful island is shown in the background. Once the title disappears, the camera flies towards the island, coming closer and closer until it stops on a bunch of pirates cutting themselves through the jungle. Note: The camera does not ever pan sideways during this shot: It only moves forwards and upwards.

I think the above camera shot would be an awesome way to start a pirate film. But probably not this one.</div>
I think thats a great idea. We should explore that, it will make the audience be like: "Whats this? Are we even in the right movie?" Thus ensnaring their intrest early on. That is actually an ingenious idea! Good work.

And i wasnt talking about the camera shot from the beginning i meant during the battl it might be nice to show a raking right off the deck.

Pieter Boelen · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 12 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]217429[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>I think thats a great idea. We should explore that, it will make the audience be like: "Whats this? Are we even in the right movie?" Thus ensnaring their intrest early on. That is actually an ingenious idea! Good work.</div>I can't see how it would work in the PotC prequel though. We already decided we would start the film with Jack aboard the Wicked Wench and Nathaniel Edwards going to London. Why would the movie open this way? However, I CAN see it being a possibility for the AWE sequel. At the end of AWE Jack and Barbossa set out to find the Fountain of Youth. Perhaps between the end of AWE and the opening of its sequel, Jack got a ship and the ship-to-ship battle would be between whatever ship Jack laid his hands on and the Black Pearl captained by Barbossa. However, both Jack and Barbossa are elsewhere: On the island to get to the Fountain of Youth first. Naturally when they do find the Fountain of Youth, it will not be what they had hoped for and it would have no real implications for the story. So the whole Fountain of Youth thing would just be the start of the film and the film would go into a different story relatively quickly.

The fun thing about starting the film this way is that we don't explain how Jack actually got another ship, which leaves it up to the audience's imagination. However, we already had another possible opening scene for the AWE sequel: the battle-with-song scene you yourself came up with previously. I have no idea which idea would work better. I do know that my scene would not work if it was not the opening shot of a pirate movie. I just don't know WHICH pirate movie. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

One thing worth of mention: The idea with my opening shot is to have the most overly obvious piratey opening shot I could come up with. You can't start out a film more piratey than with swashbuckling music, a ship-to-ship battle in the first shot and pirates in the jungle of a tropical island, can you?

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 12 2007, 06:12 AM) [snapback]217431[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>I can't see how it would work in the PotC prequel though. We already decided we would start the film with Jack aboard the Wicked Wench and Nathaniel Edwards going to London. Why would the movie open this way? However, I CAN see it being a possibility for the AWE sequel. At the end of AWE Jack and Barbossa set out to find the Fountain of Youth. Perhaps between the end of AWE and the opening of its sequel, Jack got a ship and the ship-to-ship battle would be between whatever ship Jack laid his hands on and the Black Pearl captained by Barbossa. However, both Jack and Barbossa are elsewhere: On the island to get to the Fountain of Youth first. Naturally when they do find the Fountain of Youth, it will not be what they had hoped for and it would have no real implications for the story. So the whole Fountain of Youth thing would just be the start of the film and the film would go into a different story relatively quickly.

The fun thing about starting the film this way is that we don't explain how Jack actually got another ship, which leaves it up to the audience's imagination. However, we already had another possible opening scene for the AWE sequel: the battle-with-song scene you yourself came up with previously. I have no idea which idea would work better. I do know that my scene would not work if it was not the opening shot of a pirate movie. I just don't know WHICH pirate movie. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

One thing worth of mention: The idea with my opening shot is to have the most overly obvious piratey opening shot I could come up with. You can't start out a film more piratey than with swashbuckling music, a ship-to-ship battle in the first shot and pirates in the jungle of a tropical island, can you?</div>
What about a hybrid of our two scenes? Why dont we use my music idea with the camera going under the battle when the water is shattered by splinters, and objects falling into the water Then we show the battle from above. What say you?

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Oct 11 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]217417[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>I guess you really want a comment on this. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheeky

" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> Like I said, I love the idea of the music just playing, and the scene you describe would certainly keep eyes glued to the screen. And some of the others suggestions about where the camera should be positioned as the ships pass certainly will make the scene all the more original should the filmmakers decide to implement them. We can brainstorm about it though later when we have progressed further in the script but we should be mindful that we could wind up spending a lot of time thinking up some spectacularly visual scenes that wind up not being filmed.</div>
Yes, even if an idea has nothing to do with the scene we are currently on, but it comes later PLEASE BY ALL MEANS MENTION IT! It could be documented for further use.

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

Sorry for the string of posts, but i just would like to inform you that i cant find the time to work on the script during the week, but i will be able to on the week ends.

Heres my schedual: I type the next portion we all agreed on, on Saturday and Sunday, then i post it Sunday evening. Would this conflict with anyones schedual? That is probably the most efficient way for me to do it in my position. This means the ACTUAL script, not the posting like what i am doing now.

DAS123 · Oct 12, 2007

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">TADA!!!!! </span>Here are my latest drawings, one of the ever Evil Mercer, and the Bonita Elizabeth (Bonita is Spanish for pretty <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> ). (In Glen Quagmire voice from Family Guy) Giggidy! Giggidy! Goo! Alllright!!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />

Old Salt · Oct 13, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 12 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]217484[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>What about a hybrid of our two scenes? Why dont we use my music idea with the camera going under the battle when the water is shattered by splinters, and objects falling into the water Then we show the battle from above. What say you?</div>
To tell you the truth, I'd rather see Pieter's described scene opening up a movie, and I think it would be a big statement for the sequel and a real attention getter to open it up with a straightforward scene like that The audience would really be on notice that this film is going to get their heart pumping. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

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Old Salt · Oct 13, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 12 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]217485[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, even if an idea has nothing to do with the scene we are currently on, but it comes later PLEASE BY ALL MEANS MENTION IT! It could be documented for further use.</div>
I agree. By all means post it, and write down the page number its on in the thread in case it gets buried. You will never know when it might suddenly become relevant.

DAS123 · Oct 13, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Oct 12 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]217507[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>To tell you the truth, I'd rather see Pieter's described scene opening up a movie, and I think it would be a big statement for the sequel and a real attention getter to open it up with a straightforward scene like that The audience would really be on notice that this film is going to get their heart pumping. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :onya

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Actually i meant it for the sequel, to use his idea of going under water.

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