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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

<!--quoteo(post=216637:date=Oct 4 2007, 04:59 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 4 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]216637[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->EXT. WICKED WENCH SAILING ALONG THE ENGLISH COAST - DAY


YOU BEGIN TO HEAR THE RAT-TAT-TAT DRUM BEAT OF JACK SPARROWS
SONG. PAN DOWN TO--


PANS TO SPARROWS FACE. THE BRASS ON HIS SONG PICKS UP. SHOWS
HIM SMILING LOOKING INTO THE DISTANCE. CAMERA PANS ALONG THE
SIDE OF SHIP. MUSIC STOPS ABRUPTLY WITH A DRUM ROLL WHEN
CAMERA SEES AN EITC FLAG FLOWING IN THE WIND.




3.


JACK
(TURNS HEAD BEHIND)
All hands! Prepare to make port.
Ms. Maria please furl the course
sails.


ANNA MARIA
Aye Captain, all hands on the
ratlines!

SPARROW TURNS BACK TO LOOKING AT THE LOOMING FIGURE OF
LONDON. HE IS SOMEWHAT UNSETTLED WHEN HE SEES EITC SOLDIERS
ON THE DOCKS.

JACK
(TALKING TO
HIMSELF)
There's no living with 'im after
this.

WENCH CONTINUES ON UP THE THAMES.





EXT. EITC WATERFRONT DOCKS - DAY

WENCH IS TIED UP AND GANGWAY IS LOWERED. SPARROW WALKS OFF.
YOU SEE HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH A TIDY EITC UNIFORM ON.
AS HE STEPS OFF THE GANGPLANK MERCER STANDS WITH 10 EITC
GUARDS, BARRING HIS PATH.

MERCER
Curious, I was sure Lord Beckett
ordered the shipment to arrive 2
weeks ago, but you have only just
arrived. <i><b>Why so late?

JACK
A man is never late, just not early.

MERCER
(Scoffs)
</b></i>

JACK
Oh, I thought my orders said to
have it here two weeks from two
weeks ago.


JACK
(Smiling)
Actually I was stopped by
a...convoy of yours to...inspect
my ship.


MERCER
Were you now.


4.


JACK
...Yep, thats how it happened. It
all a terrible misunderstanding
gents.


MERCER
I'm sure. Lord Beckett still
wishes to see you.


JACK
I'm here aren't I?


MERCERS TESTED PATIENCE AT AN END, HE BRINGS OUT HIS PISTOL
AND NODS TO THE GUARDS WHO SEIZE SPARROW AND CARRY HIM OFF
TO BECKETTS OFFICE.



FADE OUT.




Here's the next part of my script. I hope you like the comedy of Jack.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


<i>BECKETT: Ah, Captain Sparrow, so nice of you to show up.

Mercer walks in.

SPARROW: I had a little help.

He glances nervously at Mercer.</i>

I added a bit in to the middle in bold italics. Actually it is a fragment from your first draft Mercer, I love those lines you gave Sparrow. I added another snippet of Sparrows speech at the end here in italics as well and if you want maybe it can be worked into your next installment. Just a suggestion about the changes. To answer your question, I do like the comedy of Jack in your last post. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=216646:date=Oct 4 2007, 09:47 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 4 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]216646[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sooo....why has activity been slowing down these past few days. Old Salt and me have posted the most. Pieter posted a few, and Commodore JPJ is MIA. So tell me when everyone is ready. I understand you might be busy with everyday life things, but we must remain steadfast!

Take everything you can...give nothin' back. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think life may be intruding somewhat but unless any of us (or at least you, Commodore or Pieter since you three seem to be the principle creative force behind the script) disappear for days on end, I wouldn't be to concerned about it.
 
I personally don't have enough time to write a movie script, take care of PotC modding and publicity AND do my maritime studies as well. So I will only post suggestions, random thoughts and opinions every now and then, but I can't work on the script too much. I'll leave that up to the other people here... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
Never fear though: I'll keep an eye on you all. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
I'm Having a thought here. Its about the capturing of Batavia by the EITC. Lets have Mercer and 200 EITC Marines storm the fortress at noon when the Dutch guards are napping. We need to have this dramatic entrance by Mercer. Playing that song like in singapore. Lets show him At the very front center of the 200 marines marching up with his pistol pointed up like in the singapore withe the upper arm down, and the forearm up. Then he aims at one of the napping guards, fires, and then kills him. It will be kind of like Anakin in starwars leading the clones into the Jedi temple. Except Anakin will be Mercer, and the clones will be the EITc Marines. There's what i am thinking.
 
I've been reading, I just haven't found anything to talk about, its running so smoothly. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

I feel like a captain ashore with half pay... we haven't decided on the next big scene or gone into the next part with detail, so I can't write anything yet.

I'm working on a drawing of the <i>Wicked Wench</i>, entering the Thames and approaching the EIC complexes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> (In a Borat voice) "Wowawewa! That's nice!" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

EDIT: This may have been explored already, but do you think we could somehow make a connection between the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> and the VOC? Perhaps Jones is the VOC counterpart of Jack and the <i>Black Pearl</i>, and befriends Jack out of sympathy... because he suffered a similar fate earlier.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216713:date=Oct 5 2007, 06:20 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 5 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]216713[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm Having a thought here. Its about the capturing of Batavia by the EITC. Lets have Mercer and 200 EITC Marines storm the fortress at noon when the Dutch guards are napping. We need to have this dramatic entrance by Mercer. Playing that song like in singapore. Lets show him At the very front center of the 200 marines marching up with his pistol pointed up like in the singapore withe the upper arm down, and the forearm up. Then he aims at one of the napping guards, fires, and then kills him. It will be kind of like Anakin in starwars leading the clones into the Jedi temple. Except Anakin will be Mercer, and the clones will be the EITc Marines. There's what i am thinking.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like that image, just marching up in front of an army and aiming his pistol and shooting and killing a sleeping guard. That really would be a dramatic scene and drive home to the audience how cold he really is, wouldn't it? Just disposing of someone that's in his way without ceremony.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216687:date=Oct 5 2007, 12:02 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 5 2007, 12:02 PM) [snapback]216687[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I personally don't have enough time to write a movie script, take care of PotC modding and publicity AND do my maritime studies as well. So I will only post suggestions, random thoughts and opinions every now and then, but I can't work on the script too much. I'll leave that up to the other people here... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
Never fear though: I'll keep an eye on you all. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unfortunately, my situation is similar to Pieter's though its only work in my case that would be interfering with helping to write the script. And everyone knows about the problem you can have with too many chefs in the kitchen. Which is why it may be smart to leave the actual script writing to Mercer and the Commodore and have the rest of us chip in with ideas when we can and offer suggestions and opinions on what has been drafted so far.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216714:date=Oct 5 2007, 06:22 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Oct 5 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]216714[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->EDIT: This may have been explored already, but do you think we could somehow make a connection between the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> and the VOC? Perhaps Jones is the VOC counterpart of Jack and the <i>Black Pearl</i>, and befriends Jack out of sympathy... because he suffered a similar fate earlier.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kind of making Jones a mirror image of Jack? He stands at one end of the saga and Jack at the other and they are destined to collide at one point or another. The connection can be subtle but definitely be established early on.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216722:date=Oct 5 2007, 07:55 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Oct 5 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]216722[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like that image, just marching up in front of an army and aiming his pistol and shooting and killing a sleeping guard. That really would be a dramatic scene and drive home to the audience how cold he really is, wouldn't it? Just disposing of someone that's in his way without ceremony.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, the music will be like when he stormed Singapore. I want to establish that he is truly a cruel, cold, callused individual. So when you see him in DMC you're like "Oh, no, not him again." The reason i believe that we should give Mercer a larger role (not because of my wants) so that it makes sense to not show him as much in the later movies you will already know how evil he is, and then DMC and AWE showings of him will fit perfectly to be made short. I might be sending a mixed message so if you need me to clarify something then just let me know.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216723:date=Oct 5 2007, 08:05 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Oct 5 2007, 08:05 PM) [snapback]216723[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unfortunately, my situation is similar to Pieter's though its only work in my case that would be interfering with helping to write the script. And everyone knows about the problem you can have with too many chefs in the kitchen. Which is why it may be smart to leave the actual script writing to Mercer and the Commodore and have the rest of us chip in with ideas when we can and offer suggestions and opinions on what has been drafted so far.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I understand, i too have to balance it with my life. I just do a little bit at a time. Too many chefs in the kitchen is a good way to put it. We need you guys to cross examine the scripts, each of you have a distinctive taste, and if we balance those, we can make a great script. That is why your imput is not wanted it is <i>needed</i>. As you can see, the Commodore has a way of painting the scenes with such vivid imagry, i am quite good at creating an idea that fits like the perfect puzzle piece to forshadow and/or explain something in later movies. You others are welcome to draft a script, though being a critic to it (in a good way) might suit you better. (I must admit i have a little too much time on my hands). I once had a teacher in High school, wood shop, Mr. Herlitz. I made a huge 35" model ship of the Wasa, my very first. Some kids werent as skilled as me in this area, so he wouldnt grade us on the overall product, but on the effort we put into it. This is all about effort, we need that. I hate to push people, but the clock is ticking, we dont have all till 2009. We dont want the writers for POTC to get a potentially bad idea for the next movie into their heads.

Time is of the escence.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216724:date=Oct 5 2007, 08:13 PM:name=Old Salt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Old Salt @ Oct 5 2007, 08:13 PM) [snapback]216724[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=216714:date=Oct 5 2007, 06:22 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Oct 5 2007, 06:22 PM) [snapback]216714[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->EDIT: This may have been explored already, but do you think we could somehow make a connection between the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> and the VOC? Perhaps Jones is the VOC counterpart of Jack and the <i>Black Pearl</i>, and befriends Jack out of sympathy... because he suffered a similar fate earlier.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kind of making Jones a mirror image of Jack? He stands at one end of the saga and Jack at the other and they are destined to collide at one point or another. The connection can be subtle but definitely be established early on.
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Sorry Pieter for the quote in quote. I must be so tired i am not thinking strait, but this is just not clicking, i am having troublr understanding what you guys are trying to say. I just need some clarification.

Thanks.
 
ATTENTION. WE MUST AGREE ON THE NEXT SCENE. SPARROW IS SAILING TO THE IVORY COAST. MERCER AND EDWARDS ARE ABOARD THE WENCH. WE MUST DECIDE ON THE NEXT COURSE OF ACTION. I AM READY TO DRAW UP THE SCRIPT ONCE WE HAVE ALL AGREED.

THANKS, MAKE IT A GREAT NIGHT!
 
<!--quoteo(post=216713:date=Oct 6 2007, 12:20 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 6 2007, 12:20 AM) [snapback]216713[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm Having a thought here. Its about the capturing of Batavia by the EITC. Lets have Mercer and 200 EITC Marines storm the fortress at noon when the Dutch guards are napping. We need to have this dramatic entrance by Mercer. Playing that song like in singapore. Lets show him At the very front center of the 200 marines marching up with his pistol pointed up like in the singapore withe the upper arm down, and the forearm up. Then he aims at one of the napping guards, fires, and then kills him. It will be kind of like Anakin in starwars leading the clones into the Jedi temple. Except Anakin will be Mercer, and the clones will be the EITc Marines. There's what i am thinking.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I don't really like that idea. One of the main reasons is of course that the Dutch would be made to look like fools here, which of course clashes with my nationality. However, there is more reasons. If the Dutch are in any way serious about the defense of their city, they would have guards being awake a any given moment. That would only make sense. Having the guards take a nap would be just plain stupid of the Dutch.

Also: The clash between the VOC and the EITC should, I think, be the mark that Jack left on Beckett: Jack made Beckett look like a fool and through the fight between EITC and VOC, Beckett's hold on the trade routes to East India is temporarily severed. Of course later in the films the EITC becomes strong again, but I think in the prequel, the EITC should lose. And they should lose big time to give a reason for Beckett to hate Jack so much.

I think I said it before, but I think we should deliberately try to NOT go the Star Wars route too much. Certain people are drawing parallels between the current PotC films and the original Star Wars trilogy already, so I think we shouldn't deliberately try to put in parallels. Instead we should make our own story. Of course it would be a dramatic scene, but I think there is plenty of other ways to show Mercer is a nasty piece of work without making the Dutch look like the fools and adding deliberate Star Wars parallels.

<!--quoteo(post=216714:date=Oct 6 2007, 12:22 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Oct 6 2007, 12:22 AM) [snapback]216714[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This may have been explored already, but do you think we could somehow make a connection between the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> and the VOC? Perhaps Jones is the VOC counterpart of Jack and the <i>Black Pearl</i>, and befriends Jack out of sympathy... because he suffered a similar fate earlier.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think there should at least be <i>some</i> link between the Flying Dutchman and the Dutch. After all: The ship isn't called the Flying <i>Dutchman</i> for nothing. As it is in the current movies, the Flying Dutchman is a ship that DIVES and is captained by a SCOTTISH captain. There's both nothing flying about the ship, nor anything Dutch. This is weird and I'd like to come up with some possible explanation for this.

I think it could be funny if Jack were to hear of the Flying Dutchman myth in the Nassau tavern where a Dutch sailor tells him the <i>original</i> Flying Dutchman myth. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Dutchman" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A591365" target="_blank">here</a>. This could be made to become a funny scene between Davy and Jack:

<b>Jack's First Meeting with Davy Jones:</b>
Davy: "Wecome aboard the Flying Dutchman."
Jack: "Ah; Captain Vanderdecken, I presume?"
Davy: "Not at all. Wherever did you get that idea from? My name is Davy Jones."

This could be made to show that some myths in the PotC universe are NOT actually true. Or at least <i>partially</i> untrue. I think a world in which certain myths turn out to be true is only truly interesting if there are also certan myths that turn out to be false. If EVERY single myth is true, that becomes a bit boring, don't you think? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=216729:date=Oct 6 2007, 04:43 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Oct 6 2007, 04:43 AM) [snapback]216729[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ATTENTION. WE MUST AGREE ON THE NEXT SCENE. SPARROW IS SAILING TO THE IVORY COAST. MERCER AND EDWARDS ARE ABOARD THE WENCH. WE MUST DECIDE ON THE NEXT COURSE OF ACTION. I AM READY TO DRAW UP THE SCRIPT ONCE WE HAVE ALL AGREED.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think there should be some scenes during the voyage to Ivory Coast. These scenes should show some of the life onboard with captain Jack. Since Mercer is aboard, Jack is a bit uptight in these scenes and it shows in his treatment of the crew. Then later in the film when Jack is a pirate and comes to enjoy his freedom, we will see that Jack becomes much more relaxed and much more happy because he comes to learn that Beckett branding him a pirate was the best thing that ever happened to him: He became a free man. This will then reflect in his treatment of the crew. Also there should be some scenes here where Jack and Edwards become friendly. Perhaps a dinner scene in the captain's cabin of the Wicked Wench?
 
Perhaps they run afoul of a storm, which would show Jack's skill as a captain in a serious situation? Or maybe they cross paths with a pirate vessel, which ignites a small flickering idea in the back of Jack's mind: <i>Perhaps it wouldn't be all to bad to be a pirate...</i> when ordered to attack the vessel, Jack could be hesitant, making Mercer very wary of Jack's thoughts and future actions.

I have an idea about Davy Jones and his being Scottish: what if he were like a Barbossa? The first mate that mutinied and took the ship for his own. He seized the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> from Vanderdecken (A new character to introduce in this prequel film. Pieter, I think you should take him on as your creation as I created Edwards!) which forshadows Barbossa's mutiny.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216743:date=Oct 6 2007, 03:31 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Oct 6 2007, 03:31 AM) [snapback]216743[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't really like that idea. One of the main reasons is of course that the Dutch would be made to look like fools here, which of course clashes with my nationality. However, there is more reasons. If the Dutch are in any way serious about the defense of their city, they would have guards being awake a any given moment. That would only make sense. Having the guards take a nap would be just plain stupid of the Dutch.

Also: The clash between the VOC and the EITC should, I think, be the mark that Jack left on Beckett: Jack made Beckett look like a fool and through the fight between EITC and VOC, Beckett's hold on the trade routes to East India is temporarily severed. Of course later in the films the EITC becomes strong again, but I think in the prequel, the EITC should lose. And they should lose big time to give a reason for Beckett to hate Jack so much.

I think I said it before, but I think we should deliberately try to NOT go the Star Wars route too much. Certain people are drawing parallels between the current PotC films and the original Star Wars trilogy already, so I think we shouldn't deliberately try to put in parallels. Instead we should make our own story. Of course it would be a dramatic scene, but I think there is plenty of other ways to show Mercer is a nasty piece of work without making the Dutch look like the fools and adding deliberate Star Wars parallels.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry, i forgot to post the rest of the battle (stupid me). Only the Dutch guards on watch will be killed. The gunshots will usher the Dutch to counter-attack, and Mercer who was trying to swiftly capture the city before the Dutch could know what the hell is going on, will be disappointed because the Dutch bogged him down. Of course that was just one of my ideas for a dramatic entrance of Mercer. We just need to show him in front, pistol at the ready. I would like this battle to take place in about 10 minutes. Of course Jack and escaping dutch would tell the man in charge of operations of the VOC in this area of the attack. This would now put the EITC and the VOC at war. Now yes nationality issues might become an issue AT FIRST. Later during the sea battle a Huge dutch fleet attacks Becketts tactically unprepared fleet, and that shows that the Dutch are gettig back. SO in the end the Dutch will not be made to look like fools. I'll tell you i hate racism. It is wrong. So dont think that i am just putting the Dutch in there because i dont give a crap about them. I love the country, (and the chocolate). It is pivital to show the EITC eventually winning against the VOC because their captured ships would then make up Becketts fleet of over 300, and would secure his immensive wealth.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think there should at least be <i>some</i> link between the Flying Dutchman and the Dutch. After all: The ship isn't called the Flying <i>Dutchman</i> for nothing. As it is in the current movies, the Flying Dutchman is a ship that DIVES and is captained by a SCOTTISH captain. There's both nothing flying about the ship, nor anything Dutch. This is weird and I'd like to come up with some possible explanation for this.

I think it could be funny if Jack were to hear of the Flying Dutchman myth in the Nassau tavern where a Dutch sailor tells him the <i>original</i> Flying Dutchman myth. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Dutchman" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A591365" target="_blank">here</a>. This could be made to become a funny scene between Davy and Jack:

<b>Jack's First Meeting with Davy Jones:</b>
Davy: "Wecome aboard the Flying Dutchman."
Jack: "Ah; Captain Vanderdecken, I presume?"
Davy: "Not at all. Wherever did you get that idea from? My name is Davy Jones."

This could be made to show that some myths in the PotC universe are NOT actually true. Or at least <i>partially</i> untrue. I think a world in which certain myths turn out to be true is only truly interesting if there are also certan myths that turn out to be false. If EVERY single myth is true, that becomes a bit boring, don't you think? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That would be great! And i agree things are not accurate. Disney wanted Bill NIghty to do a dutch voice for JOnes, but Bill Nighty said "I dont do Dutch". Anyways i like his scottish accent.


<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think there should be some scenes during the voyage to Ivory Coast. These scenes should show some of the life onboard with captain Jack. Since Mercer is aboard, Jack is a bit uptight in these scenes and it shows in his treatment of the crew. Then later in the film when Jack is a pirate and comes to enjoy his freedom, we will see that Jack becomes much more relaxed and much more happy because he comes to learn that Beckett branding him a pirate was the best thing that ever happened to him: He became a free man. This will then reflect in his treatment of the crew. Also there should be some scenes here where Jack and Edwards become friendly. Perhaps a dinner scene in the captain's cabin of the Wicked Wench?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats excactly what i was thinking.
 
<!--quoteo(post=216791:date=Oct 6 2007, 06:52 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Oct 6 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]216791[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Perhaps they run afoul of a storm, which would show Jack's skill as a captain in a serious situation? Or maybe they cross paths with a pirate vessel, which ignites a small flickering idea in the back of Jack's mind: <i>Perhaps it wouldn't be all to bad to be a pirate...</i> when ordered to attack the vessel, Jack could be hesitant, making Mercer very wary of Jack's thoughts and future actions.

I have an idea about Davy Jones and his being Scottish: what if he were like a Barbossa? The first mate that mutinied and took the ship for his own. He seized the <i>Flying Dutchman</i> from Vanderdecken (A new character to introduce in this prequel film. Pieter, I think you should take him on as your creation as I created Edwards!) which forshadows Barbossa's mutiny.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ahahaha, finally i am not the only one doing the foreshadowing, i am pleased. Good idea. But we cant show the mutiny between Jones and Vanderdecken because that would take place a while ago because for all we know he has been serving his duties and meeting Dalma for say...40 years, and on the last 10 she wasnt there. Thats why he would say he devoted ten years. He just didnt say the <i>last</i> ten years.
 
If we add the Vanderdecken being mutinied upon part of the story, we should establish a timeline for that. First Vanderdecken sets sail from Holland to East India via the Cape of Good hope. When in a storm, he curses God and swears he will get to East India even if he has to sail forever to get there. He then got his wish. However, Davy Jones, being the first mate, gets fed up with sailing forever and mutinies on Vanderdecken. Davy now has the ship and somehow gets to know Calypso. They fall in love and Calypso takes away the "sailing around Cape Horn forever" curse and replaces it with the "ferrying the dead" deal. I think something like that would make sense. We can then have this part of the story be explained to us through dialog. We need not show it. Perhaps we could expand this backstory some more, though, adding some link between the Dutchman and storms.

I think the VOC should win over the EITC in the prequel. This comes as a hard blow to Beckett and ensures that next time he tries and to get the power he craves for, he will be much better prepared. So between the end of the prequel (Beckett losing) and the beginning of AWE (Beckett having a massive fleet), Beckett builds up his fleet. I don't think we need to show this. In the prequel Jack Sparrow should win and Beckett should lose BIG TIME. And this can be acchieved by having Jack, Davy and the VOC just about completely annihilating the EITC fleet, leaving only the Endeavour with Beckett and Mercer aboard.
 
Yes. It could be a sort of legend told by someone, perhaps even Jones himself.

"Tha captain was not tha leadin' sort... an' tha creu wanted a main to lead tham inta battle, an unwaverin' main of steel."
"So that's why you mutinied then, eh?"
*Huffs* "T'was not a mutiny... that main feared death-a... a chainge of comman' wos needed!"
"Tell that to your agents."
"I tried... an they tried to 'ang me. So I left an rain op tha black flag."

Dunno, just wanted to take a stab at typing like Davy Jones... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the VOC should win over the EITC in the prequel. This comes as a hard blow to Beckett and ensures that next time he tries and to get the power he craves for, he will be much better prepared. So between the end of the prequel (Beckett losing) and the beginning of AWE (Beckett having a massive fleet), Beckett builds up his fleet. I don't think we need to show this. In the prequel Jack Sparrow should win and Beckett should lose BIG TIME. And this can be acchieved by having Jack, Davy and the VOC just about completely annihilating the EITC fleet, leaving only the Endeavour with Beckett and Mercer aboard.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I have an idea here... what if the VOC loses to the EIC prequel, but then rebuilds during the next three films to return in the <i>sequel</i>. They could be the large, formidable power that ultimately helps Jack win the war against the EIC, like the French helping the Americans in their Revolution. The American privateers and Continental Navy could be a "side dish" in a way, like adding the Chinese pirates to AWE. (But they would, of course, play a larger part. The USA would be the living, breathing testament to a collection of free peoples, much like the pirates wish to be.)
 
Davy Jones could explain why it's him and not Vanderdecken aboard the Dutchman. But I think we should first have a Dutch sailor tell the original story. This way Vanderdecken will not actually be in the film though, so he won't actually be a new on-screen character. I think we could do with some more interesting new characters. As it is now, it seems we have only Post-Captain Nathaniel Edwards as new character so far.
 
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