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Additional nations in game

konradk

konradk

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Hello all,

I'm in the middle of making Different flags mod. Since I managed to make multiple flagall.tga.tx-like files, it turned out that up to two free positions for addidtional countries remained - with exception for two last periods where one of those nations is USA. So, I'd like to ask for propositions for those nations for periods we have.

Some time ago there were a suggestions of adding Sweden and Danmark for instance.

Best regards
pirate_kk
 
<!--quoteo(post=272048:date=Aug 5 2008, 07:15 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Commodore John Paul Jones @ Aug 5 2008, 07:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=272048"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We could even add another pirate nation, to simulate Asian pirates perhaps? Or Barbary pirates... that could be interesting...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unneeded I think, because in each period adding up to seven different pirate flags is possible (and up to seven personal).

Unless one would want to make various pirate 'factions' to fight with each other, but I think we could make it without occuping those two positions.

pirate_kk
 
Good Idea, I'd like if there will be as many as posible nations... Realy like...
 
I am for the danish since they had a colony in the Caribbean. For the second nation I don't have a idea yet, the swedish sounds oke. Maybe Preusen?
 
Sweden was heavily involved in slave trade from africa during the 17th century and had ships that went via the caribbean on their return to europe.
Sweden also had a West India company that was founded in 1785 on Saint Barthélemy a Swedish colony from 1784 to 1878.

Might not have been hístorically accurate, but now i do wish that "Vasa" someone was making got finished lol.
 
lol? Historical accuracy kills the game?

If you also hadent noticed, we have already gone beyond just pirates, the build now is a mod of the golden age of fighting sail, pirates, nations, merchants alike.
We already have time periods amongst others from the golden age of piracy to the american revolution and the napoleonic wars, with that of course the addition of the United States. So adding other european nations that had a Caribbean presence is definatley in order.
And like it or not, but that caribbeanish feel you speak of is a lie and nothing but fantasy and the romanticized pirate movies denying the other nations their place in history.
 
I agree with Merciless Mark. I'm tired of the old 'piratey' feeling of all age of sail games since.. age of sail games began <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

I'm actually really looking forward to EIC because it ISN'T in the caribbean lol
 
<!--quoteo(post=272323:date=Aug 7 2008, 11:56 PM:name=Bartholomew Roberts)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bartholomew Roberts @ Aug 7 2008, 11:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=272323"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=272296:date=Aug 7 2008, 07:51 AM:name=Merciless Mark)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Merciless Mark @ Aug 7 2008, 07:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=272296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->lol? Historical accuracy kills the game?

If you also hadent noticed, we have already gone beyond just pirates, the build now is a mod of the golden age of fighting sail, pirates, nations, merchants alike.
We already have time periods amongst others from the golden age of piracy to the american revolution and the napoleonic wars, with that of course the addition of the United States. So adding other european nations that had a Caribbean presence is definatley in order.
And like it or not, but that caribbeanish feel you speak of is a lie and nothing but fantasy and the romanticized pirate movies denying the other nations their place in history.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yes i have noticed actually thank you. All i was saying is that Sweden and Denmark would be in the late eras and it would kill the game if it was in earlier ones. You need to chill the f**k out. Just because i dont want Sweden or Denmark in eariler eras you get all pritty f**ky on me. Wow.

Lets get some common sense, Not everything has to be Historically Accurate.
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Sounds to me like your the one who needs to chill.
And it seems that we can agree to disagree. I will not yield on this, Sweden and Denmark has just as much a right to be present as any of the other Major Powers in the age of fighting sail.

Britain, France, Holland, Sweden and Denmark are the oldest of the major naval powers.
Already by 1650 Sweden and Denmark had a battlefleet tonnage of 28000 and respectively 25000 tons. It wasn't until 1715 that spain even have a battlefleet of 9000 tons.
Note: Do not confuse this with me saying they were the only naval powers period, but rather the only major naval powers at the times.
 
Nope, the early ones (not before 1600) but after that they ARE present and they deserve to be there, I think we should add them and that old piratey feeling is NOT what the build mod is about! The build mod has taken it further, you can be merchant or privateer or naval officer. I would love to add the nations to the game, since you get more nations to join and more relations to be dealt with, which means more possiblities to pillage and plunder.

And I too believe that MM is the one with the good arguments and that you, Bartolomeu should chill out some more since you take this to far
 
I have to say I have never really felt a good 'piratey atmosphere' in PotC yet. Especially compared to old Seadogs. So we might not loose that much. On the other hand, I can understand that some people might be afraid to find the game crownded by nations, flags, uniforms, navies, patriotism and all that when they just want to sail freely in exotic waters, seeking for treasure. It should just be a matter of ballance. For example, in some alpha Redmond port was crownded by navy officers - I personnaly found that annoying, I prefer salty sailors, dockers, poor people, etc.

But in my mind, historical accuracy don't necessary kill gameplay. Nope. I'm personnaly looking forward to see Sweden and Denmark in a next Build version.
In all means, no need to argue on this matter. Indeed Bartolomew Roberts was just asking for those new nations not to be added in the first time periods, and everybody agree on this. But he could consider banning 'f**k' and 'f**ky' from his vocabulary - no offence attempted.
 
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