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ReadMe for Build 13

Hey Petros, this is a bit off topic, but I just noticed that your from PA what part do you live in? I'm also from PA, a little north of York.
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> Doober

I be not too far from Easton.
 
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> CCC
Look'n forward to November. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Me too <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Another credit thing: The MODELS for the building set were provided by Inez Diaz, Captain Caceres and Maximus. Does that belong into the readme or will they be credited elsewhere?
 
Can you go over this ReadMe one last time please, Doober? I'm going to release the final Build 13 this weekend, so I hope you can make the final ReadMe version for then as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Here is the readme file for Build 13, I have included everything I could think of, I went through tons of topics on the forum as well as through bugtracker to make sure I haven't missed anything. My sincere apologies if I have missed any mods. I did not add bug fixes since there were so many, I didn't know where to start and I wasn't sure how many of them were from the original game and how many were from modding.

If anyone else has any suggestions please post them now so we can get them in before Build 13 releases! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Boarding has been completely overhauled so that boarding parties start on their own ships and swarming each other. Weapons captured can be placed in a weapons locker in the captains quarters for future use by boarders. Enemy captains can be taken prisoner during boarding and ransomed, killed, taken as officers or simply released. More realistic boarding situations now occur that more accurately portrays the strengths of each side. (Couchcaptain Charles & Hook)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

IIRC Maximus introduced the "talk to captured captain" feature ?

Apart from that, excellent work, thank you <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
First of all: MAJOR thanks, Doober! O haven't had a thorough look, but what I saw is excellent. I am very happy that we now have a good ReadMe to accompany our Build 13. It would really be odd to release such a modpack without a ReadMe, so thanls again for making it! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
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I did not add bug fixes
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That's fine. Most people are just interested in the features anyway. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
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IIRC Maximus introduced the "talk to captured captain" feature ?
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Yes, he did. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
I just thought of this.

Since this is Build 13 and credits have already been given in the readme of other builds, shouldn't the Credits section start with Build 13 contributors/testers?

Build 12 and prior credits can be placed after those of B13. IMHO
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->4.1 New Models and Textures
 In the modpack there are many new, retextured and improved ships. The following people worked on these ships: Petros, Captain Hawk, Inzane, Captain Spectre, Captain Augast, Maximus, Catalina the Pirate and Kazeite. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Jack Davidson should be added
 
<!--quoteo(post=166793:date=Oct 10 2006, 06:57 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Oct 10 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]166793[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Build 12 and prior credits can be placed after those of B13. IMHO
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Good idea. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

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Jack Davidson should be added
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Indeed. He added the Lugger VML. Kazeite should also be added: He recently made the walk file for the Lugger VML. He also made the new Black Pearl, but that one will be added to Build 13.1.
 
Hey that's great. Well done to Kazeite. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> I'm glad to hear that the old Lugger VML now has a walk file and I'm looking forward to seeing this in effect. I've just downloaded the new Beta3, however, unfortunately I don't have a lot of time to play at the moment. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />

Cheers <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
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First of all: MAJOR thanks, Doober! O haven't had a thorough look, but what I saw is excellent. I am very happy that we now have a good ReadMe to accompany our Build 13. It would really be odd to release such a modpack without a ReadMe, so thanls again for making it! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
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Hehehe, I would like to take credit, but really, pirate_kk did most of the hard work on the readme. Thanks pirate_kk! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

Pieter, I will add these few suggestions and repost the file, if anyone has anything to add, say now or forever hold your peace!

Also, Kazeite was already in the list. Ha! Beat you to that one! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/slap.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":slap" border="0" alt="slap.gif" />
 
Black Bart needs to definately be added to the Beta Testers section of the readme. He has done quite a bit of hard core testing for this version.

Almost every aspect of the game have my initials on them with a fix or enhancement. How do you credit something like that? Cripes... name something in the game, and I bet I have done something on it:
Control system
Interfaces
Save games
Fighting
Sailing
Buying
Selling
Trading
Quests
Items
Weapons
Lghting
... ugh
Bug Tracker Administrator...

After my name you'll just have to truncate a few hundred things to just "Bug fixer/Game Enhancer extraordinaire" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

I see Pieter Boelen doesn't have his name next to anything at all! He added some good stuff to the mod too! The equip system, looting, corpses, right? Also some other enhancements... prolly too numerous to list out as well. Heck, no mention of him being the Build Mod compiler! "Without Pieter, this Build Mod would not EXIST"... ya know!?
 
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I see Pieter Boelen doesn't have his name next to anything at all! He added some good stuff to the mod too! The equip system, looting, corpses, right? Also some other enhancements... prolly too numerous to list out as well. Heck, no mention of him being the Build Mod compiler! "Without Pieter, this Build Mod would not EXIST"... ya know!?
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Yeah, I posted that already but it looks like Pieter doesn't listen.
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Pieter, I think you left <b>your</b> name out in some places. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />

Now do I have to go read <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" /> the thing all over again and list them for you????? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" />
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I added Black Bart to the beta testers list now. And I suppose IncredibleHat should be given a bit more credit as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

I am on the list of Build 13 modders and my site is at the bottom of the page. Isn't that enough? I don't like giving too much credit to myself. Especially considering that most of the work has been done by other people than me. I hardly made any mods myself at all. Just the Quick Equip button, the bladedamage mod and some other minor stuff. I didn't make the looting system, nor the corpses. Looting was in Build 12.1 and the corpses were made by CouchcaptainCharles and improved upon by Nathan Kell and Maximus.

Without me, Build 12.1 would exist. Perhaps without me Nathan Kell would have stayed around and we would have finished Build 14 by now. Or somebody else, better qualified, would have done the compiling work. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=170131:date=Nov 6 2006, 09:26 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 6 2006, 09:26 AM) [snapback]170131[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Perhaps without me Nathan Kell would have stayed around and we would have finished Build 14 by now. Or somebody else, better qualified, would have done the compiling work. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
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Just to blow any blue moods out of your mind: I may not agree with all your compiling decisions, but looking at the overall picture you did an excellent compiling job. B13 may be late and not perfect, but that it exists at all is a wonder and a great achievement. YOUR achievement.

And that many people have left the community because other things hold more interest for them is the normal way things go. After all, PotC is an ancient game by now. But that the community is still busy and alive is because YOU have integrated everyone's work into a common project. Usually mod communities peter out into lots of incompatible or even competing individual mods.
 
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And that many people have left the community because other things hold more interest for them is the normal way things go. After all, PotC is an ancient game by now. But that the community is still busy and alive is because YOU have integrated everyone's work into a common project. Usually mod communities peter out into lots of incompatible or even competing individual mods.
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I've got to totaly agree with CCC on this - Just in my short time here i can tell what an important role you've played in keeping this whole thing together. I'm also just totaly blown away by all the modding work and the things its achieved for the game. last time i was here(in my child of thor days) - i dont even think there was much modding work going on, or atleast it hadn't been realised in a coherant whole? Heh - i surprised to see my old avater name even mentioned in the credits! - it was so long ago i'm not sure what i did to deserve the honour? lol

Anyway Pieter - you've done a grand job keeping potc 'pure' to its origonal roots, while helping improve many of the aspects of the game. When we get a new modpack compiler i hope they will try to keep it as 'real' as you have.

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EDIT:

By the way i've had a look through the build13 readme and made a few corrections(just a couple of 'grammer' ones) - i've put that zip file on the ftp in my folder.

Otherwise it looks good - i'm wondering if all the current beta testers get a mention though?(like Jason, Jonathon Aldridge, Nosie, kblack, hook, hat, Pieter, Capt.H.M.Murdock, ged, CCC, Jack Rackham, bartolomeu o portugues, nicev1869, Cap'n Drow, morgan terror, black hawk, Petros, Doober, mAIOR, Cpt.Yuke) these were the people who posted in the beta testing threads over the last few months. If i missed anyone let us know here <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Good point! That's something to change still.

Thanks for your list of testers, Black Bart! Those names must be added! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
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