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<!--QuoteBegin-Pieter Boelen+Jun 25 2005, 02:15 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Jun 25 2005, 02:15 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmm. I seem to be doing nothing but mess up with those models. Could you please do it; if I do it, I end up getting quite weird results as it would seem... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

<span style='color:red'>Edit:</span> I reckon the most troublesome models are Beatrice, Girl Patch and Lady in Red. If I remember correctly, their swords end up in weird places when fighting and their guns are nowhere to be found. So if you could fix those, that'd be great. Though you probably can't fix Girl Patch as she has a skirt. Would be great if we only could add the proper locators to all girl models... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /><div align="right">[snapback]118238[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sure, I can get them fixed (well, those with legs anyway). <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

What should I do with them? Uploaded the the FTP? Or send them directly to you? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />


<!--QuoteBegin-CatalinaThePirate+Jun 25 2005, 05:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CatalinaThePirate @ Jun 25 2005, 05:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Every time I go into the tavern at Greenford, I wonder if that fish hanging over the bar can be added to the water like the shark...  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No idea, I will see if I can find the model and compare it to the shark. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />

<!--QuoteBegin-CatalinaThePirate+Jun 25 2005, 05:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CatalinaThePirate @ Jun 25 2005, 05:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And the lizards make me think, "Now why can't we have dogs and cats in the game?"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, if we make them use the lizard animation they will walk funny, heheh! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> But it could be worth a shot, perhaps... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

<!--QuoteBegin-CatalinaThePirate+Jun 25 2005, 05:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CatalinaThePirate @ Jun 25 2005, 05:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Girls with skirts - for sitting down - can we do a switch model and have a skirted model sitting down for when they have to sit? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Making the model is easy enough, I already tried once (albeit sloppily so). As for switching, I have no clue. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> Should not be a problem either, though, I believe... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />


<!--QuoteBegin-Inez Dias+Jun 26 2005, 01:13 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Inez Dias @ Jun 26 2005, 01:13 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->About Locators: why not save the locators from Danielle to a file and reload them into the models that need fixing?<div align="right">[snapback]118488[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh yes.... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> I forgot that step... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" /> Sorry about that, Pieter. I will edit my faulty list... If it is human to err, then I am <i>extremely</i> human! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

However, it still will not work with the ladies wearing skirt... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Could that be fixed somehow, Inez? Just adding locators without touching anything else? You're the export on these matters, after all. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

And you got that right, Petros, I can't wait to see what it is either! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
Oh, and speaking of something else - for some reason it seems as if both Ronald and my Piratess is on the FTP now. I do wonder how they got there...?

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-High Sea Lass+Jun 26 2005, 01:38 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(High Sea Lass @ Jun 26 2005, 01:38 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->However, it still will not work with the ladies wearing skirt...  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />  Could that be fixed somehow, Inez?  Just adding locators without touching anything else?  You're the export on these matters, after all.  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I just checked that - loading locators from a file (via the Locators menu) does not interfere with the animation (make sure you have woman.an selected, though).
Exactly which model haveyou tried it with? A remodelled one or one of the stock towngirls?
 
Oh? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

It did not work for me when I tried... Maybe the newer Tool works?

It was a stock model of a towngirl that I attempted to fix. Her skirt was wrecked, if not overly, but it poked out in odd angles at times.

Any skirted model exported is severely messed up in animation, so I have never bothered trying with those again. Maybe I should... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-High Sea Lass+Jun 26 2005, 02:38 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(High Sea Lass @ Jun 26 2005, 02:38 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What should I do with them?  Uploaded the the FTP?  Or send them directly to you?  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
<div align="right">[snapback]118489[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't really matter what you do, as long as I get them. You could send them to me if you don't want to litter the FTP (j/k). <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
Roger that, <b>Modman</b>. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />

Will try to do some soon-ish. Make room on your email account! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
E-Mail account pieter_boelen@planet.nl empty now, so send away. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

So your two models just magically ended up there? How very mysterious indeed... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
They're now in the modpack update (I'm not going to upload the full modpack again at the moment; too much work - will save that until there've been some more updates).
BTW: I noticed you haven't used face # 223; what model is that one going to be? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

Can't wait to see your new stuff! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
I will do so soon, Pieter! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />


Indeed, I have no idea whatsoever how they ended up there... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />


223 will be my combination of Danielle's top with Blaze's trousers! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" /> I am still working on her though, as I try to make it more varied than a mere combination of two models. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<div align="center">Here's the crude splice though, as shown before:

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/justagrrl/Dani_Blazebottom.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]</div>


I will try my best not to disappoint in the future then, heheh! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
I don't recall you disappointing anyone in the past, so no worries there. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
Asch... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/oops3.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops2" border="0" alt="oops3.gif" />

I am just happy I can actually contribute something people like! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
Me too, me too! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> Aye, I'll sign that, too! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-High Sea Lass+Jun 26 2005, 12:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(High Sea Lass @ Jun 26 2005, 12:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I will do so soon, Pieter!  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />


Indeed, I have no idea whatsoever how they ended up there...  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />


223 will be my combination of Danielle's top with Blaze's trousers!  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />  I am still working on her though, as I try to make it more varied than a mere combination of two models.  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<div align="center">Here's the crude splice though, as shown before:

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/justagrrl/Dani_Blazebottom.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]</div>


I will try my best not to disappoint in the future then, heheh!  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />
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Awesome! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" /> Did you put Blaze's legs and buttocks under Danielle?
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Rico+Jun 26 2005, 05:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rico @ Jun 26 2005, 05:17 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Awesome!  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" /> Did you put Blaze's legs and buttocks under Danielle?<div align="right">[snapback]118788[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, although I did make it female in shape... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

<!--QuoteBegin-Hu Kwan Do+Jun 26 2005, 09:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hu Kwan Do @ Jun 26 2005, 09:23 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Another one of those splices, innit? except more complicated becuase its a male and female body put together.<div align="right">[snapback]118874[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yup. Shown her before, just been doing other things rather than working on her. But now I can do a bit... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

She is using woman.an, by the way, since the arms need that, heh. It is mostly to be able to use different boots (and to get rid of that sash, of course). <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
Hmmmm... I think her butt might need a bit more chainsawing, actually. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
Motion fourth'd. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
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Ah, so the bone numbers for man and woman skels are the same (at least below the waist)?
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> Nathan I just had a thought... What happened to our parrot? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-NathanKell+Jun 26 2005, 10:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NathanKell @ Jun 26 2005, 10:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ah, so the bone numbers for man and woman skels are the same (at least below the waist)?<div align="right">[snapback]118982[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All except arms seems to behave well, yes. No idea why, but they look like something from some horror, Resident Evil/Call of Cthulhu or something, fingers, arms and elbows going all over the place, wrapping around and generally going eek, I say. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
That effect has something to do with the difference in height between the male model and the female model skeletons, I think... Would there be some way to change that (maybe arm length?) when you swap arms? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
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