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Making a New Lifeboat

So would anybody be willing to try and put a mast and square sail on the original stock game boat?
 
I can do it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> I'd only need some example picture, since I'm not exactly good working from verbal descriptions. The fact I know only about 10% of correct terminology, <b>and</b> it's in foreign language, doesn't help either <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
i'd just use the old landing boat and mount a squaresail on it. you know what that is, right?
 
Thanks Kazeite. It would probably be really quite easy. Just take the boat.gm from <a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=11168&view=findpost&p=222320" target="_blank">this</a> post and, perhaps just using Inez Dias' tool, add a mast and square sail onto it for use as lifeboat. Then we can rid ourselves of this inappropriate Tartane usage. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
i'm not sure about that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> maybe a sail that's been patched up a lot of times, like a white version of the pearl's mainsail.
 
So you want this rig to look <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Rigging-square-sail.svg/300px-Rigging-square-sail.svg.png" target="_blank">like this</a>, right? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
yes. maybe a bit taller and narrower, so the sail's exactly square, but that's the general idea. the sails more or less square in the movie too. i think it's even higher than it is wide. and by the way: if it's possible, could you add the little wooden circular thing on top that jack used to hang on to?
 
Bad news on this!

The boat Pieter uploaded would need many locators to be added by tool, such as, Camera, Path, Mast, Rope.

Unfortunately Tool with any change you make, chews up the 138 KB file and spits out a 45 KB boat ... oh and yes, it beeps!


I think that for the very few times anyone has to flee a sinking ship, let the Tartane be.
At least it works!

Now, if what people want is a boat like "Jack Sparrow" uses at the beginning of CotBP, to make the game more "movie like", then just add a square sail to a Tartane.

It is after all, a small fishing boat!
 
<!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 01:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 01:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It is after all, a small fishing boat!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't understand why they put fishing boat (Tartane) into the game at first place when you can't actually catch a fish in the game? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> Eh?

Any ideas? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=223061:date=Nov 24 2007, 06:53 PM:name=Cylon13)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cylon13 @ Nov 24 2007, 06:53 PM) [snapback]223061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 01:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 01:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It is after all, a small fishing boat!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't understand why they put fishing boat (Tartane) into the game at first place when you can't actually catch a fish in the game? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> Eh?

Any ideas? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile2.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":))" border="0" alt="smile2.gif" />
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I guess, it is just to add to the ambiance.
They also added fish you know ... or did you know?
 
<!--quoteo(post=223042:date=Nov 24 2007, 09:09 PM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 24 2007, 09:09 PM) [snapback]223042[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would probably look good coded to use Sail_torn_white_plaine.tga.tx!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->LOL. Would be funny. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223045:date=Nov 24 2007, 09:19 PM:name=Kazeite)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kazeite @ Nov 24 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]223045[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So you want this rig to look <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Rigging-square-sail.svg/300px-Rigging-square-sail.svg.png" target="_blank">like this</a>, right? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yep. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The boat Pieter uploaded would need many locators to be added by tool, such as, Camera, Path, Mast, Rope.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Perhaps we can hyjack most of them from the gunboat; that one is also based on the same hull model.

<!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unfortunately Tool with any change you make, chews up the 138 KB file and spits out a 45 KB boat ... oh and yes, it beeps!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />
Perhaps we can try to export the model to VRML, then import it again and that could solve the beeping? That would introduce the reversed lighting bug though. If Kazeite would want to do some modifying of the actual model though, this would happen anyway. So might be worth a try. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
I don't want to give up on this one just yet. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now, if what people want is a boat like "Jack Sparrow" uses at the beginning of CotBP, to make the game more "movie like", then just add a square sail to a Tartane.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'd like to have a small dinghy for use in the CotBP main quest. But I'd also like a smaller lifeboat. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=223110:date=Nov 25 2007, 01:50 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 25 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]223110[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unfortunately Tool with any change you make, chews up the 138 KB file and spits out a 45 KB boat ... oh and yes, it beeps!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />
Perhaps we can try to export the model to VRML, the import it again and that could solve the beeping? That would introduce the reversed lighting bug though.
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One shipring to rule them all, and into reversed lighting curse bind them... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=223110:date=Nov 25 2007, 06:50 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 25 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]223110[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->...
<!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The boat Pieter uploaded would need many locators to be added by tool, such as, Camera, Path, Mast, Rope.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Perhaps we can hyjack most of them from the gunboat; that one is also based on the same hull model.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know how to do that and even did it from scratch.
The reason why I posted it was to show that this model will have to be dealt with in Tool and that Tool has a problem with this model as posted next!

<!--quoteo(post=223059:date=Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM:name=Petros)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petros @ Nov 25 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]223059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unfortunately Tool with any change you make, chews up the 138 KB file and spits out a 45 KB boat ... oh and yes, it beeps!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />
Perhaps we can try to export the model to VRML, then import it again and that could solve the beeping?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tried saving it as vrml in Tool and still got a 45 KB file.

There are some gm files that:
1. Tool will not open <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />
2. Tool will open but not save correctly if any locator is added <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
3. Tool will open and will save correctly, unless a locator is rotated <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
4. Tool will open and save correctly no matter what we do. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

This boat looks like a #2
 
We really need a new version of TOOL because current one is PAIN IN THE A$$! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />
 
It's becoming really quite annoying. I wish Inez Dias would be able to help. She did send me a PM to say hello recently, so she isn't 100% gone, but so far she hasn't replied to my reply. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=223228:date=Nov 25 2007, 08:08 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Nov 25 2007, 08:08 PM) [snapback]223228[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's becoming really quite annoying. I wish Inez Dias would be able to help. She did send me a PM to say hello recently, so she isn't 100% gone, but so far she hasn't replied to my reply. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I agree that it has become really annoying. That girl MUST update that program because we can't finish our ship models if we almost always getting bulls****d by bugs of that program. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />
 
Does anyone have an older version of the Tool by any chance? Perhaps an older version would work better? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
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