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Pirates of the Caribbean: Community Prequel Script

<!--quoteo(post=213809:date=Sep 7 2007, 12:36 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 7 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]213809[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder if we should post about our PotC 4 script WIP on some other PotC fansites so that we might get some more people sharing their ideas. The risk of that is that we might get some of those crazy fanboys, fangirls and "shippers" who would then spam the forum with completely stupid ideas.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DONT WANT ANYONE STEALING OUR SCRIPTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdown.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":2dn" border="0" alt="thumbsdown.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
Mr. Mercer,
I am completely aware of those historical facts. I <i>am</i> a history geek and am not afriad to admit that I enjoy reading what most call history textbooks. I'm in the midst of a 900 page biography called <u>Nelson: A Dream of Glory, 1758-1797</u>. This may sound arrogant to some, but I don't think its too bold to say I am leaning towards the side of historian when it comes to the age of fighting sail. Granted, there are some things that I may not know, but it is impossible for one to know absolutely everything. (Just go and read some earlier threads that I started, discussing the very details that you assumed I had forgotten: ship design and uniforms.) However, if we want anything to even be considered by Disney, we'll have to play by their rules to some extent... meaning, a movie with Napoleonic warships crewed by men wearing innacurate 1740s uniforms battling pirate ships that wouldn't look amiss in Blackbeard's day.
Simply put, I am offended, Sir, for knowing that you assumed that my post meant that I was inferior in knowledge upon the subject in question.
I too build ship models... I also collect age of sail uniforms, have written an entire novel on Norrington's days as commander (The first of an eight book series on his career before commodore. Don't tamper with Norrington's history, I am writing it.), and intend to serve on the USS <i>Constitution</i> some day. I have a gallery of artwork that can be found at <a href="http://cdrejohnpauljones.deviantart.com/gallery/" target="_blank">DeviantArt</a>.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213822:date=Sep 7 2007, 07:26 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Sep 7 2007, 07:26 PM) [snapback]213822[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Mr. Mercer,
I am completely aware of those historical facts. I <i>am</i> a history geek and am not afriad to admit that I enjoy reading what most call history textbooks. I'm in the midst of a 900 page biography called <u>Nelson: A Dream of Glory, 1758-1797</u>. This may sound arrogant to some, but I don't think its too bold to say I am leaning towards the side of historian when it comes to the age of fighting sail. Granted, there are some things that I may not know, but it is impossible for one to know absolutely everything. (Just go and read some earlier threads that I started, discussing the very details that you assumed I had forgotten: ship design and uniforms.) However, if we want anything to even be considered by Disney, we'll have to play by their rules to some extent... meaning, a movie with Napoleonic warships crewed by men wearing innacurate 1740s uniforms battling pirate ships that wouldn't look amiss in Blackbeard's day.
Simply put, I am offended, Sir, for knowing that you assumed that my post meant that I was inferior in knowledge upon the subject in question.
I too build ship models... I also collect age of sail uniforms, have written an entire novel on Norrington's days as commander (The first of an eight book series on his career before commodore. Don't tamper with Norrington's history, I am writing it.), and intend to serve on the USS <i>Constitution</i> some day. I have a gallery of artwork that can be found at <a href="http://cdrejohnpauljones.deviantart.com/gallery/" target="_blank">DeviantArt</a>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Commodore John Paul Jones,
I had no intention to put a damper on your knowledge of naval lore and such, i was merely remarking on the paradox of using ships of different time periods. I have read much about Nelson as well, I understand that the movies are historically inaccurate. I was just saying to help the others understand that we cannot jump TOO far ahead of things. If you read my post you will see that i say that your idea is a GREAT idea for a sequel, and i stand behind my words. I, sir, am offended that you would take me as a petty fight starter at the local pub who offends everyperson. I HAD NOT assumed that you had forgotten anything concerning ship design or what else, i just posted that about the chasers because you seemed unsure about it, and i thought i would lend a hand. Last time i do that for you seeing that it offends you. My appologies. I had not assumed anything about your post, or stated that your knowledge was inferior to mine or the subject at hand. How do you think i feel about the way Pieter tore apart my script? I was offended, but it has to be done, that is what editing is. You can write Norringtons history, just post some of it so WE can use it, thats your slab of flesh, and i have no intention of squabbling over it. I myself have not given Norrington much thought yet. Your tone sir about Norringtons history, and me not being allowed to tamper with it offends me! I officially apollogize for any problem, foul word, or any other offense i have committed against you. Your knowledge is invaluable to us, and i respect your knowledge. Everyone is allowed to contribute to any charater's history. I prefer Jones, Mercers, and Sparrows; you prefer Norrington and i respect that. Because you misinterpareted my threat does not warrent the need for such a distasteful message against me or my script, that is MY script, i wrote it, its MINE, and if you want I will personally see to it that anything about Norrington that you say should be posted, WILL be posted. Do me the honor of writing it. I wish you luck on pursuing your dream to serve on the USS Constitution.

My Appologies,
Mercer

Truce?
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Commodore John Paul Jones,
I saw your artwork and you are very skilled, as am I. I prefer using galleons such as the Wasa to a 1805 Ship of the Line, i especially like your drawing of the Dauntless. Its funny, just the other day, i drew a Galleon fighting other ships based off of the Victory breaks the line. All of the ships positions are exact except for the types of ships.
 
Aye, a pint sounds good about now. Its just that one runs into the <i>crazy fanboys, fangirls and "shippers"</i> sort <i>a lot</i> these days... especially around a topic such as this. This is just the sort of thing I've had to deal with whilst RPing, and some of the first signs of the sort mentioned above is the useless flinging of facts to give the appearance of "boundless knowledge". Your facts were not useless, but you seemed to oppose the <i>Endeavor's</i> being involved to a great extent, which I saw as refusing to "follow the rules" set by Disney (Even if innacurate!). What also alarmed me was the double and triple posting. It made things seem as if you preferred to drown us with posts and flood everyone into submission rather than wait and hear someone else's thoughts. Now, I'm most willing to let in on Norrington's backstory for this script, I was just protecting a good two year's worth of writing from the possibility of a shipper running off with it. I look forward to endeavoring upon this project together, Mr. Mercer!

<i>My</i> apologies,
John Paul Jones, Commodore
USS <i>Bonhomme Richard</i> (44)
Continental Navy
 
Commodore John Paul Jones,

I am sorry for the flood of posts, but some things just pop into my head AFTER i had already posted a post. I am not trying to flood the board, and quell any thought of rebellion against me, it is just an honest mistake. I too look forward to writing this script with you. I agree that Norrington deserves a greater role, Mercer, and Jones do as well in my opinion. Did you read my script? What did you think? I have yet to make changes to add on. You can see kind of an inpromtu outline of what i am striving to achieve in my script. Also, i think we all should have a system of checks and balances here, we all make sure that everyone elses preffered character doesnt get "special treatment". Watch my Sparrow, Jones and Mercer, make sure they dont get too much light. In my script i am planning on giving Norrington the same light as Will had in the other movies: plenty. A bit short of Jack's, but way more that Gibbs for instance. I will also have a large plot revolving around him. Also to answer something you said before, i do not "oppose" the Endevour, i was just telling everyone that that ship would be non-existant if it was a text-book movie (which it is not). I understand you protecting your writing, look what i said a bit back, it can be identified by the big long insane NO!.

Good Luck on your script!

Mercer,
Personal Spy and Assasin of Lord Cutler Beckett,
In the service of the King of England.
 
I read the script! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> I enjoy the formal aspects that you put Sparrow in... it makes us eager to see him go pirate, wondering how he was ever an EIC officer. (But I think he was probably more of a privately employed captain and civilian, rather than part of the more militant forces that we see in the second two originals.) The one thing that had me flinching was all the different plots and scenes opening up right at the beginning two/three minutes of film. The way I overcome this is by writing in the novel format, its more fluid and lets me just roll with an idea, rahter than trying to keep the screenplay formatting and accidentally putting too much in too little time.
When it comes to Norrington, I view him as a sort of "Horatio Hornblower": honor and loyalty, duty to King and Country. I think of him as one who seems a bit serious, not intentionally, but in his pure intentions as a King's officer... not a dreamy romantic. So that would be the balance, Jack's off the wall personality and laid back character in contrast to Norrington's dutiful personality and serious character.
What I really like about the holes left in his history is that we have an eight year chunk missing... the American Revolution was eight years long.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213827:date=Sep 7 2007, 09:08 PM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Commodore John Paul Jones @ Sep 7 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]213827[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I read the script! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> I enjoy the formal aspects that you put Sparrow in... it makes us eager to see him go pirate, wondering how he was ever an EIC officer. (But I think he was probably more of a privately employed captain and civilian, rather than part of the more militant forces that we see in the second two originals.) The one thing that had me flinching was all the different plots and scenes opening up right at the beginning two/three minutes of film. The way I overcome this is by writing in the novel format, its more fluid and lets me just roll with an idea, rahter than trying to keep the screenplay formatting and accidentally putting too much in too little time.
When it comes to Norrington, I view him as a sort of "Horatio Hornblower": honor and loyalty, duty to King and Country. I think of him as one who seems a bit serious, not intentionally, but in his pure intentions as a King's officer... not a dreamy romantic. So that would be the balance, Jack's off the wall personality and laid back character in contrast to Norrington's dutiful personality and serious character.
What I really like about the holes left in his history is that we have an eight year chunk missing... the American Revolution was eight years long.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I totally agree with the too many plots, i will try to extend them WAAAAAY more than they are now so its not so choppy. Did you read my post about the music? Also if you read the other posts i have Sparrows personality down hard, he is quite easy to predict. There also is another post about what i plan to do with my script, it is somewhere near the bottom of page 2.
 
I agree, Norrington is the tin soldier here, and he must be depicted as a very professional figure. Davy Jones, no matter how silly this sounds, has developed a case of bi-polarity due to his loss of Calypso. So his mood needs to swing unexpectantly, his happy is kind of a cruel happy, like when something is destroyed of killed, he smiles. Beckett is the force behind the curtain, he stands on ceremony, and his eloquent speech reflects that. Mercer, obviously, is a cold, callused assasin. He carries out Becketts orders tediously taking great care to have them done right, and puts great effort into furthuring Beckett's agenda whenever possible. Gibbs is an old sea dog, no expanation needed. Those are just the major characters, and i could go on and on all night, but i wont.
 
Aye.

I have a first few paragraphs here:

The sun rose over the horizon, a glowing ember in the dark sky. Slowly, the ocean took form again, light refracting off the waves in a trail of sparkling wonder; the night suddenly disappeared as the sky gained vibrant color, betraying the sight which proclaimed to the world the might of the British Empire. The string of ships, each varying in size and design, gave the flotilla a diverse and rich personality, only to be shattered by the royal blue ensigns that bore the seal of the infamous monopoly of aristocratic decent. The large armed escorts, each mounting guns across two gun decks, kept the merchantmen in check like dogs to sheep, the largest, a first rate that bore the golden title <i>Endeavor</i>, oversaw the activities from the center of the convoy.
Just aft of the <i>Endeavor</i>, a merchant resembling an old galleon, heaved upon each swell with obvious vigor. Her hull was a mere black silhouette against the sky, the decks slowly beginning to show signs of life aboard her. The bells ended the watch, as did the other ships ’round the squadron, and the new day began.
Inside the cabin of this vessel, a riding boot was retrieved and pulled on, then the brown frock donned and the neck stock checked. The captain, who could have aged no more than thirty, looked at himself in the reflections of the stern windows. His pencil thin moustache was well trimmed, sideburns shaved level with the corners of his mouth, and goatee kept to an inch in length. He cracked the corner of his mouth to observe the gleam of a single gold tooth, not the average sight on a respectable captain, but a sign of <i>some</i> financial success. He checked the fit of the sword at his hip, sheathed and clipped into a sword carriage that bore the stamped buckle of the East India Company. A knock sounded at his door.
“Enter.”
An officer, dressed in well to do civilian attire, entered the cabin, “Captain, <i>Endeavor’s</i> running up a signal.”
The captain replied, “Very well… I shall be up presently.”
“Is Beckett really about to do what I suspect, Jack?” the officer asked.
“I hope not… or he’ll have a bloody hard time glossing this over with the Board.” Jack replied.
He strode over to the door, picking up a crisp looking tricorn and checking that his queue was well tied before donning it and stepping out the door. The two ducked out from under the overhang of the quarterdeck and made for the windward rail, the captain absently holding up his hand to have a lens placed in it.
<i>”Mr. Sparrow to repair aboard flag.”</i> he read aloud, “Captain… its <i>Captain</i> Jack Sparrow!”
He spun about, the tails of his frock fanning out behind him as he stiffly stuck out his heel and sauntered aft, up the stairs to the quarterdeck where he stood by the large double wheel. It was the norm, his gait accustomed to the deck rising and falling beneath his feet… not to mention effected by one or two drinks the previous night, but nothing to intoxicate the mind.
“Bugger…” he spat to himself, “… that pompous aristocrat. <i>Sir</i> Cutler Beckett… its <i>Sir</i>! Well how about a <i>captain</i> for once.”
He was torn from his personal antics as the officer of the watch trooped aft to him, “Sir, cutter’s launched.”
Jack strode to the entry port and stepped out over the side, planting the toe of his boot on the rungs that descended the side of the hull.
By now the sun had risen significantly, revealing the ornate scheme of the galleon: a black hull with gold scrollwork and a broad natural wood stripe along the gun ports. The masts were washed black at the caps as were the yards, the sails an off white with salt stains. It was an interesting comparison to the crisp black and yellow ochre of the <i>Endeavor</i> that now was beginning to strike her courses to allow the cutter to maneuver alongside.
Jack quickly scaled the hull of the three decker, coming through the entry port and nonchalantly nodding to the uniformed lieutenant that waited to receive him.
“And what has prompted Beckett to desire my presence so early in the day?” Jack asked.
“New orders.” the lieutenant stiffly replied.
Jack cocked his head and raised a brow, “New orders? Now how can that be, when one has no orders to begin with? Were there some orders previously given that I missed, therefore prompting the need for <i>new</i> orders? So technically, you would want to tell me that I was being given initial orders, savvy?”
The lieutenant looked at the captain with a funny curiosity before nodding aft, “Come with me.”
Jack was escorted to the great cabin, several times larger than his own, upon which he was thrust in and locked into.
“Mr. Sparrow…” said a voice.
A man of shorter stature dressed in a finer garb and powdered wig turned from the stern windows to face Jack. His hands were clasped behind his back and his chin slightly raised in superiority.
“I do believe we’ve a topic to discuss.” he finished.
“Uh huh?” Jack asked slowly, looking around the cabin at its many furnishings.
“A certain business opportunity has arisen.” Beckett said assertively, “And I need one of my faster and more agile vessels to endeavor upon it.”
 
Very good, very good. Now, i dont write like an author of a novel would in this case, because i find it easier to write in script form. Very vivid descriptions of every thing, i am very pleased. We should both try to agree on some basic plot before any squabbling between me you or the crew ensues. Again, i applaude your writing and i like the professional Jack, but in my script i still keep good old jack except with a bit less of a rustic streak. I also like you use his tongue twisting, yeah, yeah, i get it, wait whats that again type line with the orders. I also like your dressing of Jack like an officer. I think i will use that, because havent you noticed that his big jacket looks like a worn out officers jacket? Do you plan to have a role for Jones in your script? Also be careful on the big words, Disney tried to keep it simple for the young audiences, thats why my script isnt as embelleshed as yours, for one reason or more. The greater reason is my style of writing. I will write a rough draft, and go back and clean it up, polishing here, adding a bit here so it will tie in well with your style of speech. Again, i am wondering how we will pick and choose what should be in the final draft, because every author wants more of HIS stuff in there, so we will have to pick and choose. Iif you like, when i hear feedback from Pieter and Old Salt on what to do about the final draft, concerning the content, i could convert the chosen parts of your script into movie script form, and modify my script so it will flow with everyone elses after being edited. Keep up the good work on your script! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />

Mercer
 
dangit, i wish i knew what you where talking about. i've got just about every soundtrack from all the movies. i might have it. on the other hand, if it wasn't made as a soundtrack, it's pretty unlikely i do. however, i recently found a few short tracks playing in the background when the dutchman surfaces and in other small scenes.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213844:date=Sep 8 2007, 06:54 AM:name=morgan terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morgan terror @ Sep 8 2007, 06:54 AM) [snapback]213844[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->dangit, i wish i knew what you where talking about. i've got just about every soundtrack from all the movies. i might have it. on the other hand, if it wasn't made as a soundtrack, it's pretty unlikely i do. however, i recently found a few short tracks playing in the background when the dutchman surfaces and in other small scenes.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its not in a soundtrack, thats what surprised me, the song in question is in the credits of DMC at precicely 2 hours 27 minutes, and 22 seconds. Now the first part will sound familiar, but then the second verse is completely new, and not included in the movie, soundtrack, or any sheet music for any instrament. Oh, and what do you mean when you said you "found a few short tracks playing when the Dutchman surfaces and in other small scenes"?
 
wait! i have that one! twice even. once, it's there in the soundtrack 'davy jones', and it's indeed also in the credit's soundtracks, which i also have.

well, i mean the music playing when you see tortuga for the first time (or it was isla de muerta, i'm not sure), when davy turns into his former self, the music during the liar's dice scene and when Will robs the key, those things.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213814:date=Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]213814[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! EVERYBODY! Lets not tear all my hard work to pieces shall we.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I do not intend to tear your hard work to pieces. You're doing quite a good job on your script. But I was under the impression that we were trying to make a script with the entire community, therefore I decided to post some of my own opinions. Obviously you don't quite agree with what I posted? I would be quite interested to know what exactly you don't agree with and what offended you. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=213814:date=Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]213814[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Jack IS the main character, thats the whole point of the movies<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Jack was never the main character of the films according to Ted and Terry, the scriptwriters. They say as much in several interviews I have read and also mention it in the audio commentaries. According to them, Elizabeth is actually the main protagonist of the story.

<!--quoteo(post=213814:date=Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]213814[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now Beckett is not awaiting a shipment of "slaves" that is a little to controversial, he is going to await a shipment of prisoners one of which is Calypso.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The slave thing seems to be the official backstory that I read somewhere. Of course it is not stated anywhere in the movies, so it could safely be changed for a prequel. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=213823:date=Sep 8 2007, 02:53 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 02:53 AM) [snapback]213823[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How do you think i feel about the way Pieter tore apart my script? I was offended, but it has to be done, that is what editing is.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Please note: None of my comments were directed at your script or were in any way meant to offend you. They are simply my opinions on what should and should not be done in a prequel, regardless of anything already posted in this or any other thread. Now if you don't agree with my views, that is fine by me. It's your script and you can write whatever you want. I am sure you'll do a good job at your script. However, if I were to write a script, I would stick to my own opinions, just as you want to stick to yours. That is not a problem though. It just proves we are different people with different opinions on what would make a good story. The nice thing is: We would probably both come up with a good story, as different as they might be.
 
That's what collaboration is. All viewpoints need to be taken into account and if one is ready to accept the accolades than they should accept the constructive criticism as well. I personally like the scripts that both of you have come up with, and obviously you both have put a lot of time and thought into them. This thread was started so that all ideas could be shared and debated and hopefully a working script could come out that would catch the attention of those we send it off too.
I can understand how egos can come to be easily bruised in a process like this and I think everyone so far has done a nice job of addressing these concerns and keeping the dialogue honest and respectful. It speaks to the character of those involved that these personal issues have been ironed out and the script moved forward in the meantime. In the end we do need to be serious about this endeavor in order to have our work taken seriously.
 
<!--quoteo(post=213856:date=Sep 8 2007, 09:59 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pieter Boelen @ Sep 8 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]213856[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=213814:date=Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]213814[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! EVERYBODY! Lets not tear all my hard work to pieces shall we.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I do not intend to tear your hard work to pieces. You're doing quite a good job on your script. But I was under the impression that we were trying to make a script with the entire community, therefore I decided to post some of my own opinions. Obviously you don't quite agree with what I posted? I would be quite interested to know what exactly you don't agree with and what offended you. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=213814:date=Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]213814[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Jack IS the main character, thats the whole point of the movies<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Jack was never the main character of the films according to Ted and Terry, the scriptwriters. They say as much in several interviews I have read and also mention it in the audio commentaries. According to them, Elizabeth is actually the main protagonist of the story.

<!--quoteo(post=213814:date=Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 7 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]213814[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Now Beckett is not awaiting a shipment of "slaves" that is a little to controversial, he is going to await a shipment of prisoners one of which is Calypso.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->The slave thing seems to be the official backstory that I read somewhere. Of course it is not stated anywhere in the movies, so it could safely be changed for a prequel. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=213823:date=Sep 8 2007, 02:53 AM:name=Mercer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mercer @ Sep 8 2007, 02:53 AM) [snapback]213823[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How do you think i feel about the way Pieter tore apart my script? I was offended, but it has to be done, that is what editing is.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Please note: None of my comments were directed at your script or were in any way meant to offend you. They are simply my opinions on what should and should not be done in a prequel, regardless of anything already posted in this or any other thread. Now if you don't agree with my views, that is fine by me. It's your script and you can write whatever you want. I am sure you'll do a good job at your script. However, if I were to write a script, I would stick to my own opinions, just as you want to stick to yours. That is not a problem though. It just proves we are different people with different opinions on what would make a good story. The nice thing is: We would probably both come up with a good story, as different as they might be.
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Listen Pieter,
I was saying that for effect, i know that you are entitled to give your opinion as is everyone else, i even said that il loved the idea of the Wench with the sillhoette and everything. Believe me i would rather have you guys disect my script, than some veteran critic. I have no problem with what you say. Also, Jack to me the the PREQUEL should be the main character, because Elizabeth doesnt come into the story quite yet. Actually my script title will now be called: Pirates of the Caribbean: The legend of Jack Sparrow. And i agree with you about us coming up with a good story, we will have to combine it so it goes off like a clockworks. Everyone should write theirs, post it, listen to others opinions, make changes, and when we are done we can pick what content should be in the final. I think everyone has the same basic idea about the plot, just everyone wants more of their preferred character. Please everyone take no offense to this, but see, I prefer Sparrow, Jones, and a bit more showing of Mercer. Commodore John Paul Jones prefers Norrington, again that is fine by me. If every one writes about their preferred character more, it will help the final draft because they can just focus on developing THAT character, as opposed to developing them all. If we play out cards right, this should take the cheese. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
Very well put Old Salt. I agree, everyone should not be hurt by others opinions, (unless they are meant to be hurtful). Me and Commodore John Paul Jones solved our differences as you can see. I didnt mean to offend him, and we worked things out. Problems are not solved by venting back at someone who feels offended. I have spoken alot on the ego thing, because it is important. Especially when it comes to deciding the content of the final draft. We have to act adult like about it, and not get angry when a part that we are most assuredly, absolutely, undenyably sure must be in the script, is not voted into the script. If we start doing that this script idea is going to crash and burn. We are doing this for the series, not for ourselves. I dont care if they use it, and dont put my name in the credits. At least I know that i have contributed, and a great movie is the result of my contributions.
 
Old Salt,
I always have wanted to ask where you got that little mouse at the bottom of your script from. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
Hey, Pieter,
Whats with the rank under your picture, (mine too) how does that work? Before i was a landlubber, and now i am a sailors apprentice.
 
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