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Admiral TeaRex

Admiral TeaRex

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im back! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/jackhat.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":j2" border="0" alt="jackhat.gif" />

i have a request to any skinner to make a black reskin of the escalated battle ship. from a few screenshots of it that i have seen, it would be the best possible replacement for the black pearl. it goes with the description of the villigers in PotC by "a big black ship sinking everything it meets", it looks incredibly cool and well detailed, and if left to 3D cannons only, would be a fitting and challenging opponent at the end of PotC's main storyline. i'm sure other people would agree with me on these points. i would really appreciate it if someone [such as seb, thomas the terror, or Hawk himself] would reskin it and reduce the "flat cannons" to 0. i know it's a bit much to ask <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> , but think of the result <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" /> . a major improvement over that ugly lineship we have now. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
And the <a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=8115&view=findpost&p=160124" target="_blank">actual <i>Black Pearl</i></a> wouldn't be good enough because?... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
*coughs, chokes and splutters over chocolate milk*

wow! forget the suggestion then! is it available for download!?
is it one of a kind?!
 
Right now it's in the beta tests stage. She doesn't have proper walk file for the crew and uses temporary path file (meaning, you can walk around, but you'll walk through the walls and bump into non-existing stuff).

But yeah, it is downloadable, as per thread above <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
ok
thanks. BTW, how many guns does it have? and how was it made?


AND is it one of a kind in game? or do you randomly see black pearls sailing around?

AND what are these patched sails Pieter was talking about? could you sneak us a peak?
 
Actually, now that I compare her with the stock <i>Pearl</i>, she has exactly the same number of cannons: 36, although her broadside is one cannon stronger. And, she's smaller target than stock <i>Pearl</i> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

As of right now, it's not unique - the purpose is to test her thoroughly and balance her stats if necessary.

Patched sails are supposed to reflect her look from second movie. Ive posted a screenshot in aftermentioned thread.
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> Darn you!! That screenshot caused me to drool on my keyboard!!! What an impressive skin! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />
 
i prefer the bowsprit in this one:
<a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=610" target="_blank">http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php...post&id=610</a>
 
Sorry, but this isn't the type of bowsprint <i>Black Pearl</i> has <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
ah
ok then. i honestly wish someone could make a new torn sail. the current ones look too artificial. the black pearl could be absolutely terrifying if the torn sails were fixed. i wish we could add the flag animation to the end of the sails, to make it look like strands of shredded sail were flying about. lovely ship by the way. one question though: what's wrong with the shading here?:
<a href="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=611" target="_blank">http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/index.php...post&id=611</a>
 
Well, I wanted to make new shredded sails, but for some reason gm converter doesn't recognize alpha maps of my .tga pictures <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

And, there's nothing wrong with the shading in this picture. This is how <i>Black Pearl</i> looks ingame.
 
oh. what a shame <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sad" border="0" alt="icon_sad.gif" /> .
is it a custom model?
 
It sure is <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
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Sorry, but this isn't the type of bowsprint <i>Black Pearl</i> has <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
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I didn't think the Pearl (or the Wicked Wench...heh) had a jib boom...
I hadn't seen the 'new' Pearl before this thread. Looks damned good. 36 seems too many guns for me though, I count no more than 30 max on the Pearl from the films (I'm judging from behind the scenes shots from DMC), with only 6 on the lower gun deck (on each side obviously) and only 6 or 7 on the upper decks. Never could work out why people wanted the Pearl to be a warship. I mean how would Sparrow, working for EIC be given a warship?
 
@ Kazeite: i thought so. a for the sails, i remember there was a sail making modder, if i remember correctly, it was BIGdaddyLOU or Captain Sir Henry Morgan, who made very good ones. maybe you can ask them.
 
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No, she has no jib boom.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hadn't seen the 'new' Pearl before this thread. Looks damned good. 36 seems too many guns for me though, I count no more than 30 max on the Pearl from the films (I'm judging from behind the scenes shots from DMC), with only 6 on the lower gun deck (on each side obviously) and only 6 or 7 on the upper decks.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sorry, but you <a href="http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=199895542&context=photostream&size=l" target="_blank">counted wrong</a>. <i>Black Pearl</i> from the movies has 32 guns - 16 on each side; 9 on lower deck, and 7 on upper deck.

For this model, I've added four chase guns, bringing the total number to 36.

In the other news, I've found out my my second attempt at importing a model has failed. You see, when you import a model into the TOOL, it prompts you for an existing model to copy the missing collision data from. If you cancel that dialog, the data will be generated. But, it will be generated incorrectly and POTC will be unable to process the model. At least, that's what happened with my <i>Pearl</i>. So, for now, she's using collision data from frigate, which fits quite nicely, actually... but slightly incorrect <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
a suggestion: i have seen several ships have anchors and "rigging boards [the things that hold the side rigging, that the sailors climb, in place] and ships' wheels. can you add those? or maybe someone else?
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Um, she <b>does</b> have ships wheel and rigging boards. She doesn't have anchors, though, so maybe I'll get to modelling those... eventually <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" /> Darn you!! That screenshot caused me to drool on my keyboard!!! What an impressive skin! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />
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She isn't a skin, but a completely new model. A new skin is a new texture for an existing model.

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Well, I wanted to make new shredded sails, but for some reason gm converter doesn't recognize alpha maps of my .tga pictures <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
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Do you mean the TX Converter? That is the program for converting textures. By default it doesn't convert the alpha map, but you can add the alpha map by changing some of the settings. See attached screenshot.
 
<!--quoteo(post=160181:date=Sep 2 2006, 12:52 AM:name=Kazeite)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kazeite @ Sep 2 2006, 12:52 AM) [snapback]160181[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
I'm sorry, but you <a href="http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=199895542&context=photostream&size=l" target="_blank">counted wrong</a>. <i>Black Pearl</i> from the movies has 32 guns - 16 on each side; 9 on lower deck, and 7 on upper deck.

For this model, I've added four chase guns, bringing the total number to 36.
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Hmmm, yes, you are quite right. I'd seen that picture you posted and was working from other shots (from that Barbados tourist website that I'd downloaded) that were at an odd angle, a little too dark and didn't so clearly show the gun ports on the lower deck. 32 it is.

Pity there doesn't seem to be any pictures from DMC online that show the ship when beached on the cannibal island. That'd be the best shot for checking quite a few details as it is really well lit then and the finished in-film product. A very good model you have made...I look forward to its launch.
 
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