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Modders in the Game

Choosing your own model doesn't sound narcistic to me. I chose my own model as well and so did Pirate_KK. I just put Henry Morgan in there as a temporary placeholder. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
But I mean, making me own as a character within no time <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
 
A quick update:
I have added the following modders to the game so far, (I have some in QC as I ran out of space on Turks <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />o) )

(in no particular order)
Couch Captain Charles
Petros
Sir Christopher Mings
Pirate_KK
Merciless Mark
Nathan Kell
Thomas the Terror
Bartholomew Roberts
Skull
High Sea Lass
John Paul Jones
Catalina the Pirate (I am having problems with her, TECHNICALLY speaking, I hasten to add, before the rumors start! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":eek:ops" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> )

Pieter Boelen, Ines Diaz, Bartolomeu O Portuguese, I have not included as they have their own inclusion in other parts of the game.

I have not necessarily used the correct model for each character yet (but this is something that can easily be modified later)

All, have, or are involved in, quests. Each different, or at least a little different, one from another. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel_pa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ixi" border="0" alt="duel_pa.gif" />

If I have missed anyone, they can of course be added later as well.

I hope this meets with everyone’s (or at least most people’s) approval for now.
 
Sounds good to me. Am I still in the modder scene on Turks though? Since I'm being used fairly frequently as some sort of Turks-leader, it would make some sense to have me there. On the other hand, perhaps Nathan Kell should completely replace me in that respect if he's to become governor of Turks.
What kind of TECHNICAL problems are you having with Catalina? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

BTW: Ines Diaz doesn't really have her own modder-related purpose in the game. She named her forum member name after the QC tavern owner, but she was already in the stock game. Would be good if you could add some modder-fun in her dialog at one point in the quest. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

As for Skull, the general suggestion was to have him replace Isenbrandt Jurcksen after the standard main quest is over.
 
<!--quoteo(post=269780:date=Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269780"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sounds good to me. Am I still in the modder scene on Turks though? Since I'm being used fairly frequently as some sort of Turks-leader, it would make some sense to have me there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes, no change from how you have already seen the game play with respect to yourself.
<!--quoteo(post=269780:date=Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269780"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What kind of TECHNICAL problems are you having with Catalina? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I have managed to get the standing figures talking by modifying the characters in PROGRAM\Storyline\DevlinOpera\Characters file, but Catalina gives me a CharacterTwin error and won't talk - I need to revisit her stats (again TECHNICALLY speaking <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> )
 
<!--quoteo(post=269781:date=Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269781"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, no change from how you have already seen the game play with respect to yourself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's quite fine by me then. I suppose having an actual swim with Beatrice is not going to happen, right? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=269781:date=Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269781"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have managed to get the standing figures talking by modifying the characters in PROGRAM\Storyline\DevlinOpera\Characters file, but Catalina gives me a CharacterTwin error and won't talk - I need to revisit her stats (again TECHNICALLY speaking <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> )<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's real weird. Is Catalina the last character in the file? What if you put another character as last? Does the problem then apply to the other character? I recall a similar problem being caused when we passed the MAX_CHARACTERS limit before, which was solved by increasing that number in globals.c. I have no idea whether this might apply here. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=269783:date=Jul 21 2008, 09:48 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 21 2008, 09:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269783"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=269781:date=Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269781"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, no change from how you have already seen the game play with respect to yourself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's quite fine by me then. I suppose having an actual swim with Beatrice is not going to happen, right? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><b>WRONG!</b> wait till you play Sir Christopher Mings quest again! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /> (If I can get it uploaded before you go).

By the way _ Ines Diaz is in the Jack Sparrow quest now with a part to play (still as the inn keeper though).
[I know crossed post with another subject - bad me! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> ]

<!--quoteo(post=269783:date=Jul 21 2008, 09:48 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 21 2008, 09:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269783"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=269781:date=Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269781"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have managed to get the standing figures talking by modifying the characters in PROGRAM\Storyline\DevlinOpera\Characters file, but Catalina gives me a CharacterTwin error and won't talk - I need to revisit her stats (again TECHNICALLY speaking <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> )<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's real weird. Is Catalina the last character in the file? What if you put another character as last? Does the problem then apply to the other character? I recall a similar problem being caused when we passed the MAX_CHARACTERS limit before, which was solved by increasing that number in globals.c. I have no idea whether this might apply here. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Not sure myself at the moment - (I'm working on so many things at once) I don't think so as I "sort of" remember looking at that number when I started this mod - but I will get back to it.
 
IS she the last character in the file? If not, then my suggestion is DEFINITLY not the case. If so, then swapping her with another character should allow you to quickly find out.
Anyway there's a good chance I'm talking nonsense here; it's just that I remember that was the cause last time we had clones. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
Looking forward to those quests! I think I am going to make a character for myself.... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
Anyone talented enough to want to have a go at skinning me?.... and no i do not mean for you to peel my skin off :p
 
You can at the very least choose a model you like for yourself. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
I just tested some of your further work, Short Jack Gold. Looks like good fun. I like Morgan Terror's dialog. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />
Unfortunately Catalina is still mute, as are Petros and Nathan Kell. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
Also Morgan Terror seems to use the same model as Thomas the Terror, while it isn't so in the code. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />
 
Another thing, I see a reference in the code to character "Skull", but he is not loaded through the storyline init file. Instead he completely replaces Isenbrandt Jurcksen. This would cause a problem with the "standard" main quest though, wouldn't he, because now Isenbrandt Jurcksen no longer exists? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Also in the Jack Sparrow quest Ines Diaz wouldn't use her new dialog, because she uses the default. If you want an old character to use a new dialog file, you must add this character again to the Storyline's character init folder with the same ID and same dialog file. The dialog file will then be loaded from the Storylines folder instead. I think. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=269918:date=Jul 22 2008, 08:24 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 22 2008, 08:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269918"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just tested some of your further work, Short Jack Gold. Looks like good fun. I like Morgan Terror's dialog. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />
Unfortunately Catalina is still mute, as are Petros and Nathan Kell. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Intentional so far - it's a matter of time I'm afraid - I'm trying to get the "latest version" uploaded for you before you go, so some things must wait. I'm working on Pirate_KK at the moment so the others will remain mute for a while.

<!--quoteo(post=269918:date=Jul 22 2008, 08:24 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 22 2008, 08:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269918"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also Morgan Terror seems to use the same model as Thomas the Terror, while it isn't so in the code. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeeesss! WACKO - the correct model shows up on my main computer <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> - However, as a test I download the ftp data to a different computer to check it, and I just played the game and get the same issue as you are seeing on the other computer. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
(Morgan Terror doesn't have a foot switch we don't know about does he? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> )

<!--quoteo(post=269920:date=Jul 22 2008, 08:52 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 22 2008, 08:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269920"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another thing, I see a reference in the code to character "Skull", but he is not loaded through the storyline init file. Instead he completely replaces Isenbrandt Jurcksen. This would cause a problem with the "standard" main quest though, wouldn't he, because now Isenbrandt Jurcksen no longer exists? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Also in the Jack Sparrow quest Ines Diaz wouldn't use her new dialog, because she uses the default. If you want an old character to use a new dialog file, you must add this character again to the Storyline's character init folder with the same ID and same dialog file. The dialog file will then be loaded from the Storylines folder instead. I think. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See comment re time in the previous post - The dialog change required DOES work as I have already used that for the soldiers in the Jack Sparrow story.

By the way, the swimming mod seems, sometimes (depending on his initial position when you land), to encourage one of the NPC characters to "have a quick dip" when you get to Nevis. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
A bonus ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> I can't see that it will hurt.
 
<!--quoteo(post=269921:date=Jul 22 2008, 03:15 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 22 2008, 03:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269921"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Intentional so far - it's a matter of time I'm afraid - I'm trying to get the "latest version" uploaded for you before you go, so some things must wait. I'm working on Pirate_KK at the moment so the others will remain mute for a while.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I would've expected those mute characters to at least load the "MODDERS_dialog.c" file. And Catalina actually has a file of her own, which seems to be unused.
As for Pirate_KK, could you please change his name to "Konrad Kulczycki"? That's his real name and is used in the Jackpot sidequest by Bartolomeu as well. I already changed that in my game version, if you're interested.

<!--quoteo(post=269921:date=Jul 22 2008, 03:15 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 22 2008, 03:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269921"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeeesss! WACKO - the correct model shows up on my main computer <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> - However, as a test I download the ftp data to a different computer to check it, and I just played the game and get the same issue as you are seeing on the other computer. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
(Morgan Terror doesn't have a foot switch we don't know about does he? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> )<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I will test your game version without my own modifications and see what I get. Rather strange, because I really cannot find any code that assigns that model to Morgan Terror. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=269922:date=Jul 22 2008, 03:16 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 22 2008, 03:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269922"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->See comment re time in the previous post - The dialog change required DOES work as I have already used that for the soldiers in the Jack Sparrow story.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Interesting. Again I will test your unmodified files and see what I get. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=269923:date=Jul 22 2008, 03:26 PM:name=Short Jack Gold)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Short Jack Gold @ Jul 22 2008, 03:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269923"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->By the way, the swimming mod seems, sometimes (depending on his initial position when you land), to encourage one of the NPC characters to "have a quick dip" when you get to Nevis. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
A bonus ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> I can't see that it will hurt.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'll check that out as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=269925:date=Jul 22 2008, 03:37 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 22 2008, 03:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269925"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will test your game version without my own modifications and see what I get.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I tried doing that now, but the game crashed and the interfaces are messed up. Can you please upload your whole RESOURCE\INI folder and not just the Storylines part? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
In my main quest, I already created a governor on Turks and for Roxanne Lallière I use the 9Cata model. So do I have to make some changes ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
We can certainly keep your code for the Turks governor. But we could rename him in Nathan Kell.
I do see some possible problems occurring when we use the Turks townhall filled with all those modders. Easiest to just take on of them and use him as governor as well. Otherwise we'd have to remove the governor, put the modders in instead and then explain that as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
In any case, Turks DOES need a real governor.
 
This is my character i made for the Pirates of the Burning Sea beta which i liked so much.
<img src="http://alexraptor.com/images/mercilessmark.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

I think the pirat10 model is the closest we have in PotC to this. Anyone willing to give it a go skinning it as my PoTBS Beta avatar? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=269926:date=Jul 22 2008, 09:59 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 22 2008, 09:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269926"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=269925:date=Jul 22 2008, 03:37 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Jul 22 2008, 03:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=269925"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will test your game version without my own modifications and see what I get.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I tried doing that now, but the game crashed and the interfaces are messed up. Can you please upload your whole RESOURCE\INI folder and not just the Storylines part? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See SJG INI for PB
I have a meeting to go to right now. should be back later.

Changed Pirate_KK's name (Sorry about that didn't know his real name) and his quest is working as far as it goes (not uploaded yet).
Got Morgan to talk - but now, after making changes, get the same model issue as you see on my main computer. (not uploaded yet).
I can make Catalina talk but only in instant dialog - so I have some sort of error here - will look later.

Sorry to rush - but must go.
 
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