some ship not buyable ?

[agentad]

ahoy,

i know i need max rank with a nation to have all ships in the nation shipyard

but i noticed when you escape spreightown (nataniel hawk questline) that the 1st french ship class is a "royal french manowar", no walking crew in 3rd person but no way to board it or buy it, even in isla muerte

is that ship not buyable and not boardable ? thats probably the best manowar i ever met (and during nataniel hawk questline there is too few manowar encounter)

i tried to make appear more 1st class ships by changing in "InternalSettings.h"

#define MAXPIRATECLASS 1 // INT - this is the maximum class ship pirates will be given. Defaults to 4.
#define MAXCOASTGUARDCLASS 1 // INT - this is the maximum class ship for coast guards.

and

#define SHIPYARD_CHANCE_CLASS 0
#define SHIPYARD_SELL_ALL_CLASSES 1
#define SHIPYARD_RPG_LPC 1

and i even tried

#define RANK_FOR_EIGHTH_RATE -1 // Default: No LoM Required
#define RANK_FOR_SEVENTH_RATE -1 // Default: No LoM Required
#define RANK_FOR_SIXTH_RATE -1 // Only a LoM required
#define RANK_FOR_FIFTH_RATE -1 // Lowest rank: 3rd Lieutenant (England)
#define RANK_FOR_FOURTH_RATE -1 // Lowest rank: 1st Lieutenant (England)
#define RANK_FOR_THIRD_RATE -1 // Lowest rank: Captain (England)
#define RANK_FOR_SECOND_RATE -1 // Lowest rank: Rear Admiral (England)
#define RANK_FOR_FIRST_RATE -1 // Lowest rank: Admiral (England)


but still have not found the 1st ship class i saw i never encountered it too

another point about shipyard, they never sold me better than class 5, even with the changes i made in "InternalSettings.h"

another point of my change in that file was to revive the stock potc when i fought 1 class manowar at 30+ level (like destroying or boarding a pirate/any nation 1st class manowar )

but now i get never better than class 4 when i encounter AI on sea is it cause i play in PERIOD_GOLDEN_AGE_OF_PIRACY ?

and i didnt find any way to get a manowar instead of waiting the end of main quest, and it still the "classic" manowar

of course the isla muerte shipyard works but all other shipyard are mainly useless for me :/


EDIT: about 1st class in general should i change these value (from ship_init.c) to meet the ships more ? (the thing i dont get is golden age of piracy is number 2, but the manowar have the highest chance in that period... never met any)

//Period
refShip.period.0 = 0.0; //
refShip.period.1 = 0.1; //
refShip.period.2 = 0.4; //
refShip.period.3 = 0.3; //
refShip.period.4 = 0.0; //
refShip.period.5 = 0.0; //
//Nation
refShip.england = 0.0; //
refShip.france = 0.0; //
refShip.holland = 0.02; //
refShip.portugal = 0.02; //
refShip.pirate = 0.0; //
refShip.spain = 0.0; //
refShip.america = 0.0; //

about the "french royal manowar" i even not found it in ship_init.c

screens of the manowar im talking about:

 

[Armada]

That's FR_SoleilRoyal in Ships_init.c. She has no crew on deck because her walk file hasn't been made yet.
There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to encounter or buy her at all; here are her encounter chances:

//Period
refShip.period.0 = 0.0; //
refShip.period.1 = 0.2; //
refShip.period.2 = 0.4; //
refShip.period.3 = 0.1; //
refShip.period.4 = 0.0; //
refShip.period.5 = 0.0; //
//Nation
refShip.england = 0.0; //
refShip.france = 0.05; //
refShip.holland = 0.0; //
refShip.portugal = 0.0; //
refShip.pirate = 0.0; //
refShip.spain = 0.0; //
refShip.america = 0.0; //

refShip.Model = "RoyalBattleship"; // KK
refShip.Type.Trade = false;
refShip.Type.War = true;
refShip.CanEncounter		= true;
refShip.CanBuy			= true;

Notice 'CanBuy' and CanEncounter' are both true. (If both are false, the ship becomes available in Vanderdecken's shipyard.)
She's actually more likely to encounter than the Spanish Man O' War 'SP_SanFelipe', but still quite rare at that.
You can play around with the encounter chances and pester the French until you see one, if you like. :ixi

 

[agentad]

ok so i think my problem is im not lucky

i will play with the chance then :will

thanks (i think i will try all manowar and endeavour type buyable in isla muerte to check how much they are EDIT: the most awesome still soleil royal )

 

[Hylie Pistof]

I am a Vice Admiral in game and have been sailing the 1st rate Victory-Dauntless class ships. I was disappointed that there were no worthy opponents. Now I am sailing a 2nd rate SotL and just got into a battle where three 3rd rates appeared. Rank does seem to be important.

The big ships are extremely rare in the shipyards, but do show up every once in a great while. I just saw a class 2 Spanish War Galleon in Havana.

 

[agentad]

yes the rarity of the class 2 and 1 make you easily the king of the seven sea....


i think the mod must hold the stock game "warship class rarity": giving less realism but better challenge, example: a pirate with a class 1 or 2 should be in war with nations which can send real fleet against us

perhaps we need to discuss about it before the next version