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New Lugger

Jack Davidson

Jack Davidson

Musing Mariner
Storm Modder
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> there mateys.

The following was a reply to a question in another topic, however I thought I might post it here separately to see if there is any interest.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->there mateys.

There is a Lugger in the SLiB files that I have transferred over (albeit imperfectly) to my latest build game. Actually it seems to work fine on a new game, but saved games tend to crash with it. That's probably just my incomplete modding of it. Anyway, she's a fine looking vessel, complete with wheel, floating compass, great looking brass cannons, bell, pump, anchors, capstan, etc, as well as complex rigging and blocks, all with great quality skins. I've defined a few stats for it which seem to be reasonably well balanced, not much different to Cat's LuggerCT series. Since the cannons looked brass , I made them 9lb long guns. 


So, if there is enough interest we could maybe add it to the Mod Pack, however, the following issues would need to be addressed:

- Confirmation from ALexusB and the SLiB team (particularly the designer of the ship) that this is OK to adapt to our mod.

- We'll need somebody to come up with a "walk file" for this ship. I'd do it myself but I don't currently have a 3d modelling program with which to do so.

- I still haven't sorted out the portrait info yet... this could possibly be why it's crashing with my saved game.

- There may well be other issues, however I've only just got this one off the ground so I'm sure there is still some work ahead to smooth it out.

So, once again, if there are some competant modders out there (I know there are some clever ones out there) who can help me out with this one, I'd greatly appreciate it. I've got the files and have come up with a basic working mod, I just need someone to knock them into better shape.

Cheers, mateys  Looking forward to some feedback on this one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Cheers, mateys <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

p.s. Will post some screen shots soon.
 
I have asked AlexusB for permission to use SLiB resource files for our modpack and he graciously gave us permission to use anything we'd like as long as we give them credit. So big thanks for AlexusB!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/william.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":will" border="0" alt="william.gif" />

Can't you copy the resource files straight from the SLiB add-on? Since they work in the SLiB add-on, it should be just a case of adding the required code in the PORGRAM folder and it should work, right? I have been planning of adding all new ship models and skins that I can find into our modpack.
 
Hi Pieter.

Yes indeed, many thanks to ALexusB. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />

Yeah, I've got the resource files no problems, however there was no reference to this ship in the SLiB/PROGRAMS/Ships_init C file (maybe it's in the inaccessable SLiB files?), so I created my own. The ship works in a new Build game no problem, however, I haven't got the interface portrait description quite sorted yet. The ship is using the walk file for Lugger2, however this doesn't match up too well with the New Lugger's deck and shrouds. A new unique walk file needs to be made.

These seem to be the only problems otherwise the ship works fine. I'll try to sort out the portrait refs and I'm hoping somebody in the know could make a walk file for it (I haven't got a 3d modelling program at present). The New Lugger would then be ready to go. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />

Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Have you added the new lugger to common.ini in the resource folder? Otherwise her name might not show up properly.

BLAST! The walk files are in the program folder! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
So we don't have the proper one. And I haven't got the slightest idea how to make one either. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Have you added the new lugger to common.ini in the resource folder? Otherwise her name might not show up properly.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Ah yes, that's probably it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> I will do so.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BLAST! The walk files are in the program folder!
So we don't have the proper one. And I haven't got the slightest idea how to make one either.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Pretty sure I could do it, however, just don't have the 3d program to do so. So we need a volunteer... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> C'mon shipmates, an extra ration of rum to whoever can make a good walk file for our New Lugger. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />

Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
any screenshots <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> there, Pieter.

I've sorted out the portrait description and everything now seems to work fine. I've given the ship a bit of testing and so far haven't encountered any problems. The only thing that remains to be sorted out is the walk file... it's currently defaulting to the Lugger2 walk file.

I'll upload to FTP for testing. All feedback will be most welcome, particularly whether to make it unique, common or maybe nation specific e.g. pirate only. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" />

Here are some screenies for everyone. Sorry for the poor res, I'm having trouble reconfiguring my vid. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" />

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Cheers, mateys <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
...one more...

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Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Nice, <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I do like a bigger ship thoe : }
 
im speechless!!! when can we try it? do u know if the other boats are so detailed as this litle baby? (i Really hope so...)
Thank man!! you're the man!!!
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> there, matey.

I've uploaded this to the FTP for everyone to test. If it's popular and bug free maybe it could end up going into a future Modpack update. As I mentioned previously, it seems to be bug free with what little testing I've done myself, however still requires a new walk file, i.e. the way the crew move around and behave on the deck and in the rigging.

By the way this new lugger matches up perfectly with the new small cabin that Screwface has introduced to the New Islands Mod. I think the small cabin was originally designed as the particular interior for this lugger.

This is the only new ship design of this nature that I have found in the SLiB files, however, from looking at the SLiB gallery I suspect there may well be more buried deep in their files that we can't access.

Cheers <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
BTW

<!--QuoteBegin-Bloody Pirate+Oct 19 2005, 07:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bloody Pirate @ Oct 19 2005, 07:18 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->im speechless!!! when can we try it? do u know if the other boats are so detailed as this litle baby? (i Really hope so...)
Thank man!! you're the man!!!
<div align="right">[snapback]133234[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thanks matey, but I only transferred the files over and tweaked a few ship files, etc, on our side. The real credit and many thanks should go to ALexusB and the SLiB team for the great design in the first place and for most graciously letting us use their resources. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/buds.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":drunk" border="0" alt="buds.gif" />

Cheers, matey <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
Wow, that looks terrific! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" />

Not period to the late 1600's, but a really decent modeling job! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

My hat's off to AlexusB and to whomever did this fine ship! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />
 
Damn. This ship looks so realistic like it was from a simulation. We really need more ship models like this. Looks great.
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" /> WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Huuummms...

It's cool yes but it's a bit irrealistic... Look at the size of the cannons just beside the one of the crew.

This shit would have sunk like the Vasa!

Ok, not SO bad...

But I was speaking of the back cannons... on a pic they seems very very big... anyway...
 
Checked the 3d model out first today, and I would say this is the lugger I want to sail. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=134433:date=Nov 1 2005, 05:12 AM:name=dHerblay)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dHerblay @ Nov 1 2005, 05:12 AM) [snapback]134433[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Huuummms...

It's cool yes but it's a bit irrealistic... Look at the size of the cannons just beside the one of the crew.

This shit would have sunk like the Vasa!

Ok, not SO bad...

But I was speaking of the back cannons... on a pic they seems very very big... anyway...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey stop dissing Vasa ye scurvy dawg <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/duel_pa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ixi" border="0" alt="duel_pa.gif" />
 
Been a while since I posted here/played potc, but jsut have to say this ship looks great, almsot makes me wanna trade in my ussual fast schooner :p
 
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