Improvement of the HMS Victory.

[pgargon]

I can only give to Coas.

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/// Manowar - Victory
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
makeref(refShip,ShipsTypes[SHIP_MANOWAR]);
refShip.Name            	= "Manowar";
refship.Soundtype		= "manowar";
refShip.Class			= 1;
refShip.Cannon          	= CANNON_TYPE_CANNON_LBS24;
refShip.MaxCaliber      	= 42;
refShip.Weight			= Tonnes2CWT(4000);
refShip.Capacity        	= 6800;
refShip.CannonsQuantity		= 106;
refShip.rcannon 		= 51;
refShip.lcannon 		= 51;
refShip.fcannon 		= 2;
refShip.bcannon 		= 2;
refShip.MaxCrew         	= 800;
refShip.MinCrew         	= 160;
refShip.BoardingCrew		= 400;
refShip.GunnerCrew		= 80;
refShip.CannonerCrew		= 204;
refShip.SailorCrew		= 800;
refShip.SpeedRate		= 10.5;
refShip.TurnRate        	= 25.0;
refShip.Price           	= 1050000;
refShip.HP              	= 10500;
refShip.SP              	= 300;
//refShip.AbordageLocation	= "Boarding Deck_01";
refship.Type.Merchant		= false;
refship.Type.War		= true;
refShip.fWindAgainstSpeed	= 1.0;
refShip.sea_enchantment		= 1.0;
refShip.lowpolycrew 		= 28;
refShip.buildtime 		= 140;

refship.Rocking.y 		= 0.3;
refship.Rocking.az 		= 0.02;

refship.WaterLine		= 0.5;
refship.SpeedDependWeight	= 0.45;
refship.SubSeaDependWeight	= 1.8;
refship.TurnDependWeight	= 0.45;
refship.WindAgainstSpeed   	= 0.7;//boal
refship.CabinType          	= "Cabin_Huge"; // boal 28.03.05
refship.DeckType           	= "Big";

refship.InertiaAccelerationX	= 1.5;	refship.InertiaBrakingX		= 1.5;
refship.InertiaAccelerationY	= 1.5;	refship.InertiaBrakingY		= 1.5;
refship.InertiaAccelerationZ	= 1.5;	refship.InertiaBrakingZ		= 1.5;

refShip.GeraldSails.rey_b2		= 1;
refShip.GeraldSails.rey_b3		= 1;
refShip.GeraldSails.rey_c1		= 1;
refShip.GeraldSails.rey_c1.vscale	= 0.98;
refShip.GeraldSails.rey_b2.vscale	= 0.98;
refShip.GeraldSails.rey_b3.vscale	= 0.98;

refship.Track.Enable		= true;
refship.Track1.ZStart		= 0.30;
refship.Track1.LifeTime 	= 18.5;
refship.Track1.Width		= "6.5, 7.5";
refship.Track1.Speed		= "8.0, 9.0";

refship.Track2.ZStart		= -0.15;
refship.Track2.LifeTime 	= 10.5;
refship.Track2.Width		= "16.0, 18.0";
refship.Track2.Speed		= "0.15, 0.25";

I hope that helps.

 

[Armada]

Cheers mate! That's do just fine!

 

[Armada]

The lack of texture is woodGrainU2.tga.

Oops, it seems I accidentally overwrote a file with the same name in the Resource\ Textures folder when trying to put it in Textures\ Ships.
Does anyone know where I can get the original woodGrainU2.tga.tx (last modified 2008), which was in the Textures folder, not Textures\ Ships?
I think I may have found out what it is: a boarding deck (like the Black Pearl one) is missing some railing textures.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

It felt a little embarrassing, but when it crashed before, the system.log was shouting at me saying "You forgot one of the model files!"... so, that fixed, it worked!

No worries, mate; it can (and has) happened to the best of us.

I very much like the game's error logging feature; although it doesn't always tell you what's wrong, very frequently it does point you in the right direction.
The Storm-engine based games really ARE very modder-friendly.

The flags and pennants look good to me, though I would say maybe the flag on the foremast should be a pennant as well.
So from forward to aft, it would be pennant-pennant-ensign-pennant-ensign.

[BEING PICKY]The pennant on the aft mast looks very long, while the pennant on the bowsprit looks very wide.
Do you think it would look better if they all had pretty much the same shape?[/BEING PICKY]
Please ignore the above if you do not feel like it's worth the trouble.

In any case, you did a great job! Be sure to look through Pgargon's other threads on this forum;
he's made quite a lot of other high-detail ships as well. You don't have to port them if you don't feel like it,
but at least you'll know they're there.

For the missing texture, I can't help you. However, I would recommend you make another install of PotC + Build Mod to a different folder.
Once that's complete, put the whole folder on an external hard drive or something so you'll always have a backup, just in case.
For myself, I've got about 20 different PotC installations on my external HD of different Build releases.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

I posted Experienced Captain's pictures of the HMS Victory and Le Superbe to our ModDB Profile: http://www.moddb.com/mods/new-horizons/images
They now nicely adorn our main page in order to try and build some anticipation for Patch 4 (or Beta 2, whichever we end up releasing first).

 

[Armada]

The flags and pennants look good to me, though I would say maybe the flag on the foremast should be a pennant as well.
So from forward to aft, it would be pennant-pennant-ensign-pennant-ensign.

[BEING PICKY]The pennant on the aft mast looks very long, while the pennant on the bowsprit looks very wide.
Do you think it would look better if they all had pretty much the same shape?[/BEING PICKY]
Please ignore the above if you do not feel like it's worth the trouble.

I'll change the pennants and ensigns as you said, but I do a agree with your 'being picky'- some pennants look a bit oddly shaped.
No idea how to change that... or would it be a simple moving of some locators...?

In any case, you did a great job! Be sure to look through Pgargon's other threads on this forum;
he's made quite a lot of other high-detail ships as well. You don't have to port them if you don't feel like it,
but at least you'll know they're there.

Lol! Subtle hint there... don't worry, I'll port some more when I get a chance! They're all brilliant and too good not to have in the Build Mod!

For myself, I've got about 20 different PotC installations on my external HD of different Build releases.

Good idea about backing it all up, but I think 20 is a bit heavy going :

I posted Experienced Captain's pictures of the HMS Victory and Le Superbe to our ModDB Profile: http://www.moddb.com/mods/new-horizons/images
They now nicely adorn our main page in order to try and build some anticipation for Patch 4 (or Beta 2, whichever we end up releasing first).

Ooh, they're famous already! Hold fire, I can get some really nice screenshots if you want (that Victory pic still has a missing texture).

Oh, and I mustn't forget to upload the necessary files for these ships, once I'm done fine-tuning them, for PotC; I can't keep 'em all to meself!

 

[Armada]

Ooh, they're famous already! Hold fire, I can get some really nice screenshots if you want (that Victory pic still has a missing texture).

For example...

http://www.moddb.com...tory11#imagebox

There's more where that came from!
But I'd like to get Le Superbe's flags right before I get a better picture of her.

 

[Luke159]

Nice pic's, its nice to see the ship in all its glory and other famous ships too.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Those really ARE nice pictures! I'll replace the HMS Victory one on the ModDB with these two!

I'll change the pennants and ensigns as you said, but I do a agree with your 'being picky'- some pennants look a bit oddly shaped.
No idea how to change that... or would it be a simple moving of some locators...?

It's indeed just a matter of moving the f# locators in the "penn" group.
You can use the GM Viewer with "Show labels" and "Show locators" enabled at the bottom of the program.
When you now open a mast GM file, you can see where the locators are, so you can see which one you'd have to move.

Good idea about backing it all up, but I think 20 is a bit heavy going

Well, in YOUR case I was just suggesting one backup.

Oh, and I mustn't forget to upload the necessary files for these ships, once I'm done fine-tuning them, for PotC; I can't keep 'em all to meself!

We probably won't be releasing Patch 4 for a while; you could release them all together in a "Pgargon+Experience Captain Ship Pack" or something.

 

[Armada]

Those really ARE nice pictures! I'll replace the HMS Victory one on the ModDB with these two!

As I have just noticed. Much better!

It's indeed just a matter of moving the f# locators in the "penn" group.

OK I'll do some more experiments and see what looks right.

Well, in YOUR case I was just suggesting one backup.

I know I was just saying. : That's done now, so I'm safe in case of emergency.
I think I'll back up all my work on these ships too- I would certainly NOT want to lose them!

We probably won't be releasing Patch 4 for a while; you could release them all together in a "Pgargon+Experience Captain Ship Pack" or something.

Sounds like a good idea, a rather nice optional extra!

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Sounds like a good idea, a rather nice optional extra!

If you do it like this, you can also release your pack before Patch 4.
If you make an account on the ModDB and give me your username, I'll add you to the PiratesAhoy! group and allow you to post your pack on there as well if you want.

 

[Armada]

If you do it like this, you can also release your pack before Patch 4.
If you make an account on the ModDB and give me your username, I'll add you to the PiratesAhoy! group and allow you to post your pack on there as well if you want.

Two advantages in one:
1) It can be released sooner rather than later
2) It will be more widely advertised thanks to ModDB
And I hope that it should spark some more interest in the Build Mod too, especially showing off some new screenshots of pgargon's ships!
I'll create a ModDB profile soon then... perhaps it would be a good idea to put a 'Coming soon' teaser about the ship pack...?

 

[Pieter Boelen]

If you make your ModDB account, you'll be able to post images and news articles as well. Feel free to do so!
As far as I'm concerned, any activity on the ModDB is good; keeps us in the picture, eh?

 

[Armada]

I got bored so I've done some work on the pennants:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/new-horizons/images/new-hms-victory1#imagebox

What do you think?

P.S. Pieter, could you please update the ModDB images of Victory and Bellona?
It's nice to keep them up to date to let people know what's happening.

 

[Hylie Pistof]

Those pennants do look nice. I was just looking at some B13 screenies and there is a big difference.

On the subject of pennants, the pennants on the Grand Schooner look quite large. Are they supposed to be like that?

 

[Armada]

On the subject of pennants, the pennants on the Grand Schooner look quite large. Are they supposed to be like that?

Probably, yes. Makes it look 'grand'. :
I think Pieter was in charge of sorting out the pennants for the Different Flags mod, so he'd know.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Are they supposed to be like that? Uhm... I suppose not. Anyone'd be welcome to adjust them to look a bit more normal.

Experienced Captain, can't you replace the pictures on the ModDB yourself?
If not, I'll give you the rights so that you can. Easier and quicker for you to be in charge of it.

 

[Armada]

Are they supposed to be like that? Uhm... I suppose not. Anyone'd be welcome to adjust them to look a bit more normal.

Since I'm in the swing of things, I can do that for you if you wish.
I assume the best thing to do is to put the updated model on the FTP once I'm done.

Experienced Captain, can't you replace the pictures on the ModDB yourself?
If not, I'll give you the rights so that you can. Easier and quicker for you to be in charge of it.

I can't tamper with any media that I didn't post; you put the first few images on there, and I filled in the rest.
That's why I assumed only you could change the first few.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

I'll give you the rights so you CAN tamper with media that you didn't post.
As soon as the ModDB works again, that is. Seems to be down at the moment.

 

[Armada]

I'll give you the rights so you CAN tamper with media that you didn't post.
As soon as the ModDB works again, that is. Seems to be down at the moment.

As I've just noticed. But thanks anyway!

EDIT: Uh, slight problem. The download and article have been approved, I believe, but I can't view the 'news' or 'images' tabs for the PotC mod. :blink:
All it does is tell me the server is undergoing maintenance! And what's worse... I can't sign out, since it shows the same message!
AGH I'm stuck logged in!

UPDATE: I was able to get to the images section by clicking an image in the 'latest screens' on the home page, yet the main 'images' tab still doesn't work.