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Build 14 Alpha

wait, you can actually enter santiago now? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> but would you please tell me if i have to start a new game or not?
 
Jonathan:

Your fix appears to solve the problem of going between the decks and back to sea. Thank you.

It does not solve the probelm of boarding. When you board, you still stuck over the ocean and the game is essentially frozen.

Alos in build 14 alpha with the fix, even though I have my game set as follows:

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->#define CORPSEMODE 2
// 0: Stock PotC: no bodies laying around, no looting ability
// 1: Corpses will persist, but will not be manually lootable
// 2: Corpse persists and can be manually looted of items
// WARNING: Until a body is looted, the body will create an impassible obsticle!

#define AUTOLOOT_ON 0
// 0: No automatic looting of killed characters
// 1: Blade/Gun/Money of killed enemies is automaticly moved into your inventory
// (This can be combined with CORPSEMODE 2 as any leftover items not autolooted will be left on the corpse)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I can't loot corpses on land. They are auto looted as they are in boarding.
 
i can loot corpses manually on land, but i don't have that update installed yet.

what i think that the problem is with boarding is that there where some files in the DECKS directory (that one of which pieter siad that you have to remove it enterely to install build 14)that shouldn't have been removed, like the other ones now in the update.
 
Ok, added a few more missing files to my fix download (link in previous post) which hopefully has fixed boarding this time. (Worked for me on the one boarding I tested)

Haven't looked into looting yet. That's next.
 
your racing ahead! to quote IH: ,looks like bug fixes are flying out of my (your) butt like to many beans!' <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

and would somebody please finally tell me if i have to start a new game or not? you see, i'm doing rather well at the moment, and i'm getting tired of having to start over every time.
 
Jonathan --


Your fixes do appear to solve the problems of moving between decks and boarding. Thank you.

I have noticed the following other issues.

1. When picking up sailors at sea the Message: "your rank is incresed to" appered with no rank specified.

2. There is no weapons locker in the cabins of ships being boarded.
 
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your racing ahead! to quote IH: ,looks like bug fixes are flying out of my (your) butt like to many beans!' <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

and would somebody please finally tell me if i have to start a new game or not? you see, i'm doing rather well at the moment, and i'm getting tired of having to start over every time.
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Thanks! (I think <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> )

It's always a "good idea" to start a new game, But if you really don't want to. Open <b>PROGRAM/globals.c</b> in your old POTC version and look for the save game version requirement field:
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->#define IS_SGV                    xx.xx<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

Then open globals.c in your new build and change the IS_SGV number to match. You can then load old saves in the new version.
<b>BUT IF YOU DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO MENTION IT IF YOU REPORT ANY BUGS!</b> As old saves in new versions can cause their own problems.

I did this myself from build13 beta 6 up to build13 full, and just ignored the odd things that happen occasionally.
 
<!--quoteo(post=174549:date=Dec 5 2006, 06:52 PM:name=Jonathan Aldridge)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonathan Aldridge @ Dec 5 2006, 06:52 PM) [snapback]174549[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Ok, I *Think* I have fixed the bug with going to the deck and back to sea (and probably boarding as well)

download the zipfile:
<a href="http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jaldridge1/POTC/Build14alpha_Fixes1.zip" target="_blank">build14alpha_Fixes1</a>
and extract to your POTC folder.

it should overwrite:
AISea.c and BOAL_Deck.c

Looks like it fixes the going back to sea problems, but no guarantees it doesn't break something else! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

Edit: I've added the fix for the Malcom Hatcher tutorial I posted earlier too. So it should overwrite "both_reaction.c" as well.

Edit Edit: Ok, and I've put in a fix for the zero cost morale raising. (The download should now update ship.c as well)
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> Reading thru these Post, I seem to be the only one with a Black Screen!?
I installed above "Fixes",but the game does not Start!! Well it does sort of to the
point clicking 'New Game' and Black Screen! I followed instructions to the letter!!
Not having any Problems with Build 13! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=174839:date=Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM:name=Nosie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nosie @ Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]174839[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> Reading thru these Post, I seem to be the only one with a Black Screen!?
I installed above "Fixes",but the game does not Start!! Well it does sort of to the
point clicking 'New Game' and Black Screen! I followed instructions to the letter!!
Not having any Problems with Build 13! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Well, I'm not getting that... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
Have you tried re-installing POTC, then build13, then 14alpha again? (Pain in the ass as it is to do all that...)



<!--quoteo(post=174753:date=Dec 7 2006, 02:33 AM:name=Jason)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 7 2006, 02:33 AM) [snapback]174753[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

I can't loot corpses on land. They are auto looted as they are in boarding.
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Odd, it's working properly for me. Any particular location this is happening?
 
i think i'll start a new game then after all to save all the trouble. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> about the looting, i know it doesn't work in a certain part of the maltese abbey, but that has been around since build 13.
 
Ok, a couple more little fixes added to my build14alpha fixes:

1. There was some missing/broken dialog with Malcom Hatchers tutorial if you started with the tiny boat.

2. You couldn't get pirate hunting quests properly from some of the governors. Now fixed.

get em here:
<a href="http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jaldridge1/POTC/Build14alpha_Fixes1.zip" target="_blank">build14alpha_Fixes1</a>
 
Hmm, I was just about to board a surrendered ship when the Direct Sail random encounter triggered, respawning all the ships, and making my prize disappear. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Can this be fixed CCC?
 
<!--quoteo(post=174841:date=Dec 7 2006, 02:08 PM:name=Jonathan Aldridge)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonathan Aldridge @ Dec 7 2006, 02:08 PM) [snapback]174841[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<!--quoteo(post=174839:date=Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM:name=Nosie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nosie @ Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]174839[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> Reading thru these Post, I seem to be the only one with a Black Screen!?
I installed above "Fixes",but the game does not Start!! Well it does sort of to the
point clicking 'New Game' and Black Screen! I followed instructions to the letter!!
Not having any Problems with Build 13! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bounce.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":b:" border="0" alt="bounce.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Well, I'm not getting that... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
Have you tried re-installing POTC, then build13, then 14alpha again? (Pain in the ass as it is to do all that..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> I've got the stockinstall, Build13 Full, Build13 update1 on 2 computers and there are no Problems
with any! Now I've installed 14 over the top of that following instructions as per Pieter's Webpage and have the
same Problem on both Computers!!! .....which is a black Screen after clicking 'Start New Game'!!!!
Believe me I tried it several times!! This time round I will try it without getting wrid of the DECKS folder!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=174860:date=Dec 7 2006, 09:21 PM:name=Nosie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nosie @ Dec 7 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]174860[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> I've got the stockinstall, Build13 Full, Build13 update1 on 2 computers and there are no Problems
with any! Now I've installed 14 over the top of that following instructions as per Pieter's Webpage and have the
same Problem on both Computers!!! .....which is a black Screen after clicking 'Start New Game'!!!!
Believe me I tried it several times!! This time round I will try it without getting wrid of the DECKS folder!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hmm, that's odd. Is there anything listed in the error.log file? (If you have logging turned on)
 
Pirate hunting at Conceição : when i start this quest, in the quests book i have messages like " i met this boatswain and he seems sincere..." or " i successfully sank the pirate..."
 
jonathan! stop torturing me! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" /> now i have to start again!
 
<!--quoteo(post=174863:date=Dec 7 2006, 08:05 PM:name=Jonathan Aldridge)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonathan Aldridge @ Dec 7 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]174863[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<!--quoteo(post=174860:date=Dec 7 2006, 09:21 PM:name=Nosie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nosie @ Dec 7 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]174860[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> I've got the stockinstall, Build13 Full, Build13 update1 on 2 computers and there are no Problems
with any! Now I've installed 14 over the top of that following instructions as per Pieter's Webpage and have the
same Problem on both Computers!!! .....which is a black Screen after clicking 'Start New Game'!!!!
Believe me I tried it several times!! This time round I will try it without getting wrid of the DECKS folder!
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whippa.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":whipa" border="0" alt="whippa.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hmm, that's odd. Is there anything listed in the error.log file? (If you have logging turned on)
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> Yes It's turned on, no Error.log or compile.log. Tried with the tutdeck included,
but that only makes a mess like I reported before. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I can't loot corpses on land. They are auto looted as they are in boarding.
Odd, it's working properly for me. Any particular location this is happening?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This occured in the Conciaco jungle.
 
<!--quoteo(post=174859:date=Dec 7 2006, 10:59 AM:name=Jonathan Aldridge)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonathan Aldridge @ Dec 7 2006, 10:59 AM) [snapback]174859[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Hmm, I was just about to board a surrendered ship when the Direct Sail random encounter triggered, respawning all the ships, and making my prize disappear. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Can this be fixed CCC?
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Ah, yes, it annoys me as well that the shiptraffic respawns. Currently I don't know if and when I will ever be able to change that (I am still busy bugfixing things in B13, didn't even know that Directsail was already in B14 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /> )

There is a check that prevents respawning if hostile ships are nearer than 1000m, so that you are not ripped out of battles or chases. That doesn't yet work for neutral or surrendered ships
 
here's a wierd bug: try entering a store, using fast travel to go to your ship deck, (from which i couldn't enter the rest of my ship, nor could i do so with fast travel, but i did have a gunboat, so i think that that's intentional.) press enter/return, choose the back option, and see what happens! really, it's wierd. kinda disturbing really.

also, the port icon doesn't show up in the fast travel menu.

small dialogue bug: malcom is now your captain who gives you a ship, a scenario which i like, but when you dismiss him, he still has the old dialogue, which doesn't fit right.
 
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