Paused Bava's HMS Southampton-32 guns, 1757

Wedori · Nov 4, 2014

I have created all 3 Anchors for Sphynx and a couple of blocks if you need. Interesting in updates too, here

Captain Armstrong · Nov 5, 2014

Brilliant, could certainly be useful!

Sorry, I should've posted an update awhile ago because plenty has been done since the last one, but I wanted to place anchors and finish the figurehead first. But with learning some basic animation to pose it, and the need to upgrade to the latest version of maya to use ODemuth's anchors, and coordination duties, and school etc...it's just all taking rather a long time. I might have a slight reprieve this weekend...we'll see if I can manage something!

Captain Armstrong · Jan 8, 2015

Timb · Jan 8, 2015

That is quite impressive! I think the version in pic 23 complements the overall color scheme of the ship.

Pieter Boelen · Jan 8, 2015

Stunning!

ODemuth · Jan 8, 2015

Looks impressive!
Well, I allways thought that the knees are the most anoying parts of the ship, I see you got some nice rounded knees

The ship is really beautiful, seems like she's ready soon

Armada · Jan 8, 2015

Lovely work, particularly with the figurehead! Good idea using MakeHuman, rather than trying to sculpt it from scratch.
What have you got left to do? Does the model have LODs and proxies yet?

One small thing, it looks like the stern window frames have some slightly odd normals, most noticeable in image 37. Setting them to hard-edge normals should fix it.

Thagarr · Jan 8, 2015

Very nice work mate! I am really looking forward to seeing this one in 3D! :woot

Wedori · Jan 8, 2015

Hey, good work! What I have noticed is, please check the direction of the UV in some cases. Knees looks vertically and at the beam the grain dont follow the wooden path.

Captain Armstrong · Jan 20, 2015

Thanks for the kind words all!!

Armada said:
Lovely work, particularly with the figurehead! Good idea using MakeHuman, rather than trying to sculpt it from scratch.
What have you got left to do? Does the model have LODs and proxies yet?

One small thing, it looks like the stern window frames have some slightly odd normals, most noticeable in image 37. Setting them to hard-edge normals should fix it.

Better?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43901618/CA/misc/screens/Southampton/41.JPG

here's what is left on my to-do list:

Add anchors, Add complete bumpkins
Finish Standing Rigging
Ensure Materials are in order
Add Gunport lid animations, whatever else is standardized at this point.
Create Proxies
Create Buoyancy Mesh
Give to Capt. Murphy for use in-engine
Create LOD1/2 from Bava’s original low-detail mesh
Add Berth and lower decks
Adjust/complete as Game development progresses

Wedori said:
Hey, good work! What I have noticed is, please check the direction of the UV in some cases. Knees looks vertically and at the beam the grain dont follow the wooden path.

Working on it! :keith

Armada · Jan 21, 2015

Captain Armstrong said:
Better?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43901618/CA/misc/screens/Southampton/41.JPG

That does look better. Something still seems a little off, but that might just be a combination of the lighting and camera angle.

Captain Armstrong · Jun 14, 2015

Next step should be animating gunports and rudder, and otherwise prepping her for the game-unless anyone can point out critical missing parts

Pieter Boelen · Jun 14, 2015

She looks absolutely glorious! :bow

Armada · Jun 14, 2015

Looks OK, I suppose. :razz

I would check Wedori's hierarchy diagrams on the Wiki when adding joints for the ports and rudder.
There's no need to animate them; probably just export them in the closed position.

Don't forget the 'firingpoints' locators for the guns. I haven't tried adding any myself yet, but I assume you need to find the right gun models, line them up at each gunport and place a locator at the gun's point of origin.

Wedori · Jun 14, 2015

@Captain Armstrong

When it helps, Ill send you the St. Albans as reference. The dependency of the yard arms to the masts and the setup of materials and proxys is important.

A few tipps:

You should fix the bows UV, so that the grain follows the pattern.
I see this here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43901618/CA/misc/screens/Southampton/43.JPG
When its a problem to make them looking right, please extract them and Ill help you there.

At pic
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43901618/CA/misc/screens/Southampton/48.JPG
and
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43901618/CA/misc/screens/Southampton/45.JPG

I see, that the metall parts of the yard arm is at a wrong place. Please check the position. You can easy set them by placing it on yards arm vertices. I have let them centered in sideview.

Are any open problems in fitting in the Sphnyx parts so far?

By placing the joints for joint- and in its result rotation orient of rudder etc. the samplefile should help you much there.

Captain Armstrong · Jun 19, 2015

Thanks everyone!

I'll look into firing points, do we have a 12pdr completed? It would be great to have the example of the St. Albans to follow :napoleon

Good catch with the Mizzen Yards! An easy fix. As for the bow, are you referring to the vertical timbers or the headrails themselves (or both?)

ODemuth · Jun 19, 2015

@Captain Armstrong
He means the head rails. It seems that you projected the UVs from the sides. The wood was bent and not cut out, so the wood grain should follow the rails.

Wedori · Jun 19, 2015

Yes, I mean what ODemuth says.

For the gun: Its no problem to create the 12 pounder in the right length. I have an good workflow for it and finished all barrel lengths of the 9 pounder (most common for 6th rates). Now its absolutely no problem to take the 12 pounder.
My question is: Actual only the Bronze patterns are researched (Looks better

). I recommend as Armament for now the Armstrong pattern. Those guns was in service (Caruana said) till late 1790 years.
Can you tell me what length is need? compared with the Sphynx (7ft6in) I guess the Southampton have had one or two lengths more (8ft or 8ft 6in) for the 26 guns on it. Did you know the exactly length? If not, I create both and we take a look how it works on the gundeck.

On quarter and fore she have had 6 pounders. Fore was mostly long ones. I guess 9ft but on quarter real short ones. I guess 7ft 6in.

Have any of our experts an idea about the lengths?

Captain Armstrong · Jun 19, 2015

I think it was 8ft! I'm trying to find the history PDF but R. Braithwaite's site seems to be down (he made the plans) and I'm pretty sure gun specs were included in the documents. but yeah it makes sense to build different sizes of one pattern first-even if bronze was generally only used for chasers :razz

Also I would think that for the sake of uniformity they would have the same length 6pdrs on both QD& F'csle

Wedori · Jun 19, 2015

The reason why I have started the bronze guns first was, that these looks much better. The handles, the crests, all looks more fine and decorated.
Ill create the iron guns later. First I finish all Bronze barrels. And then step by step the carriages. Most its best to fit in the carriages height to the ship (relationship deck height and lid).
So at the Southampton I do the same.

For the forecastle: I know I havent big knowledge in historical ships but so far I have read, the fore guns was long ones and was oriented straight forward, not to the side like the other ones.
Maybe anyone can define us this theme.

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