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Why am i getting owned?

isherwood

Landlubber
I just installed the latest build etc, and started a new game, yet when i travel around oxbay, i randomly get attacked by pirates, or by the guards, if i try and leave on my ship i justr get killed by the fort, any reason why this is happening?
 
In the Build mods it is possible to encounter randomly generated enemies in towns. But the guards are not supposed to attack you unless you attacked some citizens of the town first. When you leave Oxbay, the fort will be in French hands, which is the reason why they'd fire at you. However, if you raise French or Portuguese colours they will think you are one of them and you'll be able to leave safely. In the Build 13 Beta version this will not happen anymore at all. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/no.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":no" border="0" alt="no.gif" />
 
If you let your officers carry guns, they might shoot an innocent bystander, prompting the guards to go after you. I don't let my officers carry guns.

If you killed a merchant, well, the merchant guild is very powerful. And the soldiers will go after you. Even if one of your officers did it by mistake.

Hook
 
Those crazy officers, even without guns they cause enough trouble. Especially Nigel, that guy seems to like to start chopping random people up for no reason. When he draws his sword, I start running for a door, because I know a major bloodbath is about to take place. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
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I just installed the latest build etc, and started a new game, yet when i travel around oxbay, i randomly get attacked by pirates, <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

In your conversation with Malcom Hatcher, when you started the game in your cabin, didn't he explain that there was a contract put out for your head?
If you fast skipped through the dialogue, you missed this bit of information.

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Covered by Hook
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if i try and leave on my ship i justr get killed by the fort, any reason why this is happening?
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Covered by Pieter
 
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I have the latest beta 3 and when i leave Oxbay the fort still atacks me...
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<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" /> Not if you change flags like Pieter said in his previous reply!
 
<!--quoteo(post=166872:date=Oct 11 2006, 04:11 AM:name=JohnPB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JohnPB @ Oct 11 2006, 04:11 AM) [snapback]166872[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
I have the latest beta 3 and when i leave Oxbay the fort still atacks me...
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You are quite right. This is not intentional and will be fixed in the next Beta. It used to be intentional, but it was changed. But now it happens again, but this time it is not intentional. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />
 
Ref getting attacked by Oxbay Fort:

Well shouldn't it attack you if you dont fly french/portuguese colours to sneak away? malcolm does warn you of this, but maybe its easy to miss his advice, as he gives it to you later in conversations with him? And he does only mention it once. How about each time you have conversation with him after he first mentions it, he reminds you after what ever he's been saying? e.g.

You: Malcolm do you have any further advice?

malc: well you could buy lots of Sandelwood to sell in Richmond, you'll get a good price. Oh and by the way you really should change your flag to French colours before leaving Oxbay on your ship.

LATER:

You: malcom can you give me advice on sailing my ship?

Malc:[gives advice]. Oh and Captain please dont forget to change your flag to French - if you do the fort will fire upon you when you try to leave!

etc
etc

OR how about after he first tells you about the French invasion fleet the game automaticaly sets your flag to french, and he could tell you during that speach.

malc: Oh and Captian i've been informed that a French invaison fleet has been spotted coming this way, they plan to invade Oxbay. Under the circumstances i've taken the precaution of flying the french flag from your ship, this way the fort shouldn't attack you when you leave. Dont forget to change it later depending on your destination.

something like that?
 
Right now the game starts you with your personal flag. Because you have your personal flag flying, Malcolm doesn't warn you about using a different flag. And the fort shoots at you.

I changed Malcolm's dialog some time ago so that the last thing he says before he leaves you is the advice about raising a French flag. But you don't see it because you have your personal flag flying.

Hook
 
This was a bug. It will be fixed. With your personal flag flying, you simply shouldn't be blown out of the water. It does happen at the moment, but it is unintentional. Pirate_KK made a fix for that and I'll add it into the next modpack update. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
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Right now the game starts you with your personal flag. Because you have your personal flag flying, Malcolm doesn't warn you about using a different flag. And the fort shoots at you.

I changed Malcolm's dialog some time ago so that the last thing he says before he leaves you is the advice about raising a French flag. But you don't see it because you have your personal flag flying.

Hook
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oh i understand what was happening there now.

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This was a bug. It will be fixed. With your personal flag flying, you simply shouldn't be blown out of the water. It does happen at the moment, but it is unintentional. Pirate_KK made a fix for that and I'll add it into the next modpack update.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yeah your personal flag should(at game start anyway) work as if you had the portugese one flying - you should be neutral to all nations other than pirates. As time goes on and you make your sides then maybe your rep with your personal flag should lose some of that neutrality in relation to the other nations?
 
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