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Sub Mod for Build Mod 13 to replace Portugal

Bartholomew Roberts

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I've been thinking of making a sub mod to replace Portugal with Denmark/Norway after reading about how they had a colony there. I want to know how other modders think of this. I would do all the coding work, but I need a skinner to re skin the soldiers. What do you guys think, I mean I know the game starts in 1690 and that they weren't there yet, but Portugal didn't have a colony in the Caribbean, and I think by adding Denmark/Norway would make an interesting game.

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Hi there, Bartholomew Roberts <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I actually did a visual makeover on that idea, replacing portugal (Concaicao) to dk/no(St.Thomas) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
But it is only shipflags, fortflags, nationshield, character names, shipnames etc - regarding the uniforms, the position is still available, if you want the task <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> I cant do that stuff. Grab them in my folder on the ftp in the PotC Files server and see if you can use any of it. You are free to use og modify the files to your own needs <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

PS: We were there in 1690. We officially acquired St.Thomas in 1666. But that is still late, compared to the other nations <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Looks excellent Peter, fits in with the game, thou i'm guessing this was made for build 14 cause the American flag? If you can give me the character names and ship names, i can put them in if you like <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Pirate_KK was considering putting Denmark/Norway in Build 14 before the USA appear.
You might want to PM him and ask if you can do some work for that and help him that way.
Unfortunately he has WAAAY too much on his plate, since he's the only coder working on fixing bugs.
However, he also has a lot of unfinished features in the works.
 
Ok, I did´nt know pirate_kk was actually working on this, too. Poor guy <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Bartholomew, its rather a mess in that folder, I know. I will zip all the files into their right positions for easy extracting. I temporarely uploaded all of it for now, please feel free to use it as you like. Until then <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="cheers.gif" />
 
Thanks Peter, I got all the necessary code and stuff from your ftp folder, I saved them all to separate .txt files for easy sorting. Do you mind if I change a few things? I want to change the models of the merchants and Governor etc to make them look more north European rather then Iberian.

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I took a look at the files and I see you already did half the work <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> I edited the Rumor_Data file and changed all the Conceicao's to St.Thomas's and a little thing extra, changed trade rumor values from 25 to 40.
 
Pirate_KK was considering it; I haven't got a clue how far he came.
He's probably going to leave the finishing up to somebody else.
He just provides the possiblity for us to do it.
Actually doing it is easy enough for other people to do, so he can do other stuff. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Pieter: I agree <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Bartholomew Roberts, that would be great if you did <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Beware, that some of this work may be a temporary solution, as I never meant to buff Portugal out of the map. But I cant do models, especially not new islands.

.oO(Maybe if I just glance long enough on my screen, St.Thomas or St.Croix might come dumping from out the blue to the map in a very fortunate, weird and mystical way? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blah:" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />)
 
I have already done half the work with the code, replacing more stuff, etc. I\'ll be sure to upload to the ftp when I\'m finished <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> What I\'m going to do is just use existing models for the soldiers. I don\'t know what a 17th Century Danish Soldier looked like, so take a pick off this page: <a href="http://\"http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/\"" target="_blank">http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/</a>

Also try to find a suitable Governor <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

And could you gather a list of Danish/Norwegian ship names?

We will also need someone to take screenshots of the areas and rename them like Charlotte Amalie, Christianssted, Bird Cliffs, Trunk Bay and Fort Christian.

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Peter, I think you did something wrong with the Conceicao.c file cause when I put your file in, whenever I go to Conceicao the screen goes black. Here is the code:



Could someone tell me what the problem is?
 
About above code...

I don't quite understand - in the toipic there were information that Danmark/Norway is to be sub-mod for Build13, and the presented file <i>Conceicao.c</i> is from B14A8? Do you have any error.log and compile.log for this case?

Of course, those contry/countries could be made as additional nations in B14, but first I have to correct everything in different flags mod which got mad when I was forced to reinstall whole potc after double HD format. All texture work will be of great value and help.

pirate_kk
 
That's what I was afraid off pirate_kk.....

PeterWillemoes, are all your files from build 14? I am looking to do this mod for build 13 not 14.
 
<!--quoteo(post=292481:date=Dec 13 2008, 06:17 PM:name=Bartholomew Roberts)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bartholomew Roberts @ Dec 13 2008, 06:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=292481"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have already done half the work with the code, replacing more stuff, etc. I'll be sure to upload to the ftp when I'm finished <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> What I'm going to do is just use existing models for the soldiers. I don't know what a 17th Century Danish Soldier looked like, so take a pick off this page: <a href="http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/" target="_blank">http://www.s31clan.com/privateftps/pietersmods/</a>

Also try to find a suitable Governor <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

And could you gather a list of Danish/Norwegian ship names?

We will also need someone to take screenshots of the areas and rename them like Charlotte Amalie, Christianssted, Bird Cliffs, Trunk Bay and Fort Christian.

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PeterWillemoes, are all your files from build 14? I am looking to do this mod for build 13 not 14.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I uploaded the rest of the files I have on the ftp. Among them are ships_names.c, look in the portuguese section, as I only converted Portugal to Denmark on the "surface". The huge amount of work, replacing everything Portuguese, turned out to be too much to oversee for me. I had to figure out how to make use of the alias file structure of B14A8, making it possible only to change a few files. So yes, I am afraid everything is made in B14A8 and not B13. Sorry, I´ve never modded anything before - thought this way was jolly-dandy-brilliant <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />o)
I dont know how to seperate the camera from the player and take pictures from the air ingame, but I could of course come up with more names, character- and shipwise. To seperate DK a bit from the other nations and make things more realistic, the existing shipsnames are taken from actual merchant and naval ships, build between 1650 and 1750. Most characternames are also from actual persons. Fictious names are a little harder to come up with (we had another namesystem from father to son/daughter back then. That system is still in use on Iceland BTW).

About the guvernor, I think you should meet Peter von Scholten, I had to grab this pic from a DVD of mine:
<img src="http://www.riveost.frac.dk/peter_von_scholten.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

18th century uniform, unfortunately but long story short: I think Thomas the Terror is working on danish soldiers from all time periods(except the first one). But that´ll probably take a while before he finishes those. As "General Guvernor" really MEANT general back then, he is wearing an officer´s uniform. If I could do models, I would use the head from the Searcher model and the corpse from Aubrey - you think that´s possible? If it is, I suppose we could apply those neat skins from Thomas later on <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

Its not so bad with the flags. I can convert them to those in B13. Only thing is, my Photoshop is not working properly and I just changed OS to Vista. It´ll take a little time <img src="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//style_images/greynight/folder_post_icons/icon8.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Pirate_kk: Any plans for incorporating Sweden into the game as well? I noticed, Merciless Mark wanted them into the last period, but only with ships and no land. I could help him out a bit with swedish ships_names..
 
Its ok Peter <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Can anybody upload their Conceicao file from build 13? I was stupid not to back it up so before I can make any further progress I will need that. About the models, I was just thinking about using models that are already in game, but if someone is willing to make new models that would be wonderful. Peter, I'll grab the ship names off the ftp and whenever you got your photoshop back up and running can u fix the flags and stuff to be used for build 13?
 
I think I could better take the searcher model, and turn the 18th century uniform in a more, 17th early 18th century uniform.
 
File <i>PROGRAM\characters\init\Conceicao.c</i> from B13 in attachment.

PeterWillemoes: in post B14A8 there would be possible to add two additional nations for periods from Early Explorers to Colonial Powers, and one in the last two (since the other is used by the USA). So, in some period it would also be Sweden.

pirate_kk
 
Bartolomeu, could you please upload the code as a file, I removed it from your post because otherwise the thread was to long.
 
Thanks for the file pirate_kk, much appreciated!

Here is the file Thomas <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />

Note: It is in txt format because the ftp would not let me download it so I just copied it on to notepad and then just transfer the code on to the actual file.
 

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I'm from Norway as well, so if you need any names or something, maybe I could help <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
Bartholomew Roberts: Will fix the flags and upload them with original names with "_b13" extension.

Thomas the Terror: Good point. That would be awesome and eliminates the re-modelling thing.

Pirate_kk: Thank you very much.
Neither DK/NO or SE should be included until Golden Age of Piracy (if officially ever included at all).

xzirri: We almost spell names the same way.
It would be good if you could find some very typical norwegian names for ships.
I already included norwegian sea-heroes(henrik bielke, peter wessel etc) in the characters_names.c list <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
All right, I'll be waiting <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
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