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Selectable Ages

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i think this is a great idea, however shouldnt jack aubrey be in the 1790-1820 era and not in 1770-1790?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What do you mean by that? If it is in regards to my mentioning that the surprise be seen by The Corsican, I was merely referring to the model that Inzane built, not a quest-specific vessel. And the <i>Surprise</i> would have been around then, since Aubrey served on her as a Mid'man and she was part of the French Navy before that...
 
Please take the years in my above list with a grain of salt. The main idea is to have seperate era's that somehow feel like a realistic and coherent whole. I put Jack Aubrey in the <i>Revolutions</i> era, because that's when the US were hostile to Britain and I recall Jack Aubrey having some fights with the US. Hornblower didn't (not in the books I've read anyway), so I put him in <i>The Corsican</i>, where the US are friendly to England. I just seperated them like that to not have two quests in one age and have the other age quest-less.

Any chance someone could update my proposed list with all the additions of ship types, nation relations and realistic ship type renames?
 
The Corsican presents a problem then... because The War of 1812 would be something that many players would look forward to in the 1790-1820 range.
 
Pardon me my lack of knowledge on the subject matter, but... what exactly IS that problem? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
That the relationship of England and the US of A are set to friendly from 1790-1820, and we are not able to change that midgame, right? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />
 
Actually, we CAN change it in midgame. Not sure if we need to though. We also have the changing nation relations mod, that could greatly interfere with preset relations anyway. And the random relations mod that sets random relations on game start. Gets a bit confusing, doesn't it? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=237439:date=Feb 10 2008, 02:44 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Feb 10 2008, 02:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237439"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually, we CAN change it in midgame. Not sure if we need to though. We also have the changing nation relations mod, that could greatly interfere with preset relations anyway. And the random relations mod that sets random relations on game start. Gets a bit confusing, doesn't it? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We do have that, randomly changing relations during the game, I mean? That would be since Build 14, I assume, as I haven´t encountered it yet in my Build 13 Final game. That would be a dream come true (as those who remember my first term of presence here may remember).
 
So we <i>can</i> make it so Spain changes relations from being allied to the French, to being allied with the British?

Sorry that I wasn't clear earlier.
 
<!--quoteo(post=237441:date=Feb 10 2008, 02:53 PM:name=v_Grimmelshausen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (v_Grimmelshausen @ Feb 10 2008, 02:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237441"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We do have that, randomly changing relations during the game, I mean? That would be since Build 14, I assume, as I haven´t encountered it yet in my Build 13 Final game. That would be a dream come true (as those who remember my first term of presence here may remember).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Build 14 mod, yes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<!--quoteo(post=237442:date=Feb 10 2008, 03:04 PM:name=Darth-me)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Darth-me @ Feb 10 2008, 03:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237442"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So we <i>can</i> make it so Spain changes relations from being allied to the French, to being allied with the British?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Possible. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=237358:date=Feb 10 2008, 03:59 AM:name=Commodore John Paul Jones)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Commodore John Paul Jones @ Feb 10 2008, 03:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237358"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What do you mean by that? If it is in regards to my mentioning that the surprise be seen by The Corsican, I was merely referring to the model that Inzane built, not a quest-specific vessel. And the <i>Surprise</i> would have been around then, since Aubrey served on her as a Mid'man and she was part of the French Navy before that...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

nono i was referring to pieters post about main quests and eras, but he replied already <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
 
I've actually been doing some work on this now:<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->void SetEra(int era)
{
    switch(era)
    {
        case 0: // The Spanish Main (1600-1680)
            SOLDIERS_ENGLAND    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_FRANCE        = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_HOLLAND    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_SPAIN        = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_PORTUGAL    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
        break;
        case 1: // The Golden Age (1680-1740)
            SOLDIERS_ENGLAND    = 1;    // Deringer 1707 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_FRANCE        = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_HOLLAND    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_SPAIN        = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_PORTUGAL    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
        break;
        case 2: // Colonial Powers (1740-1770)
            SOLDIERS_ENGLAND    = 1;    // Deringer 1707 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_FRANCE        = 1;    // Deringer 1720 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_HOLLAND    = 1;    // Thomas the Terror 1720 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_SPAIN        = 1;    // Thomas the Terror 1710 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_PORTUGAL    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
        break;
        case 3: // Revolutions (1770-1790)
            SOLDIERS_ENGLAND    = 1;    // Deringer 1707 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_FRANCE        = 1;    // Deringer 1720 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_HOLLAND    = 1;    // Thomas the Terror 1720 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_SPAIN        = 1;    // Thomas the Terror 1710 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_PORTUGAL    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
        break;
        case 4: // The Corsican (1790-1820)
            SOLDIERS_ENGLAND    = 1;    // Deringer 1707 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_FRANCE        = 1;    // Deringer 1720 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_HOLLAND    = 1;    // Thomas the Terror 1720 Soldiers
            SOLDIERS_SPAIN        = 2;    // JMV 1830 soldiers ("Zorro")
            SOLDIERS_PORTUGAL    = 0;    // Stock Soldiers
        break;
    }
}<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
Can somebody please tell me the correct nation relations in each era?
 
<!--quoteo(post=237444:date=Feb 10 2008, 03:15 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Feb 10 2008, 03:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237444"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=237441:date=Feb 10 2008, 02:53 PM:name=v_Grimmelshausen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (v_Grimmelshausen @ Feb 10 2008, 02:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237441"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We do have that, randomly changing relations during the game, I mean? That would be since Build 14, I assume, as I haven´t encountered it yet in my Build 13 Final game. That would be a dream come true (as those who remember my first term of presence here may remember).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Build 14 mod, yes. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />

<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" />

By the way, I really like the idea about different eras, that´s probably the best way to satisfy the different wishes as to which period background should be represented - personally, I like the post - 1650 to 1720 era, where buccaneers and freebooters still were employed as mercenaries on a large scale. It´s an immensely dynamic age, the end of the Thirty Years War, the English civil war, the age of Louis XIV and the War of the Spanish Succession.
 
<!--quoteo(post=237459:date=Feb 10 2008, 03:29 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Feb 10 2008, 03:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237459"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can somebody please tell me the correct nation relations in each era?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

About Portugal's relations :

Spanish Main (1600-1680)
Spain : Hostil / France : Friendly / England : Friendly / Holland : Hostil / Pirate : Hostil

Golden Age (1680-1740)
Spain : Neutral / France : Friendly / England : Friendly / Holland : Neutral / Pirate : Hostil

Colonial Powers (1740-1770)
Spain : Hostil / France : Hostil / England : Friendly / Holland : Friendly / Pirate : Hostil

Revolutions (1770-1790)
Spain : Friendly / France : Hostil / England : Friendly / Holland : Friendly / Pirate : Hostil

Corsican (1790-1820)
Spain : Hostil / France : Hostil / England : Friendly / Holland : Friendly / Pirate : Hostil

About the Portuguese soldiers if nobody is interested in making the skins, use the Deringer's French soldiers for the last three periods seeing that the uniforms are rather similar.
 
I have now skinned some dutch and spanish soldiers to match the deringers. I shall look at the pictures you sended some time ago, to see what I can do.
 
Huh? They're all mentioned. But they're only Portugal's relations.

<!--quoteo(post=237708:date=Feb 11 2008, 10:27 PM:name=bartolomeu o portugues)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bartolomeu o portugues @ Feb 11 2008, 10:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237708"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->About the Portuguese soldiers if nobody is interested in making the skins, use the Deringer's French soldiers for the last three periods seeing that the uniforms are rather similar.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'd rather not have two nations using the same set of soldier models; that'd be confusing. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
woops. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=237849:date=Feb 12 2008, 06:55 PM:name=Thomas the Terror)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thomas the Terror @ Feb 12 2008, 06:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237849"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have now skinned some dutch and spanish soldiers to match the deringers. I shall look at the pictures you sended some time ago, to see what I can do.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks Thomas the Terror. I hope you saved this picture because I lost it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=237897:date=Feb 12 2008, 07:58 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Feb 12 2008, 07:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=237897"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Huh? They're all mentioned. But they're only Portugal's relations.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes it's just Portugal's relations <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
 
Between 1580 and 1640 wasn't Portugal belonging to the King of Spain? All the wars against Portugal, waged by Dutchmen, Frenchmen and Englishmen were a consequence of the union of the two Crowns. At that moment there were the idea/propaganda of a Catholic union against the foreign heretics, that united together the two countries.

Portugal was at war against Spain from 1640 to 1668 officially. Peace or alliance treaties were signed with England, Holland and France between 1660 and 1668, when Portugal had managed to take back most of its possessions.

Things changed a lot between 1600 and 1680.


<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Corsican presents a problem then... because The War of 1812 would be something that many players would look forward to in the 1790-1820 range.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Pardon me my lack of knowledge on the subject matter, but... what exactly IS that problem?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The War of 1812... We already talked about it, I think : the United States invaded Canada, which belonged to England, and attacked the English navy. The US navy had some success, but at land it was a disaster and ended up with the White House burning.
 
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