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Colony / Town Population and BuildingSet

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vaustein

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Build13 is excellent! It's amazingly more fun than Age of Pirates, and the best ~400MB I ever downloaded <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/type_1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":nk" border="0" alt="type_1.gif" />

Two quick questions. First, I was able to customize the experience by modifying buildsettings.h.
For example, I turned off fire drills, ship repair time, and locked chests in the Oxbay sewer / dungeon.
I noticed that BuildingSet is set to 1, yet talking to an officer does not give me the option of building
new structures. According to another post, it is possible to build a house, for instance, if BuildSet
is enabled. I'm clearly ignorant about this part, so could someone offer guidance?

Also, one of the mods in Build13 decreases the sell price (my profits) on ships. Capturing and selling
ships was my main source of income in pre-Build13 PotC. How can I adjust this? Is it controlled by one of the
.c or .h source files under potc\programs ?

Three more quick things:
- Does the huge Build13 installation include Build13 Update 2?

- A random dude in Redmond offered me a treasure map for about 40,000 piasters. Is this a good buy?

- On the subject of editing .c and .h files, can I make the ship move faster on the World Map? I wasn't
expecting Oxbay and Redmond to be so far apart on the new, more historically accurate Archipelago map.

Thanks, from an original Seadogs veteran (spent that Christmas beating all Seadogs endings plus Deus Ex)!
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" />
Wellcome to the forum!
Building set: I don't play it because it needs work still.
I think the Bricks have problems, you have to carry Planks etc.
in your hold and you have to have some experience. Some Pirate in this here forum
can get you more info.
As you found out, Buildsettings.h and internalsettings can be altered to your own
taste and if you like to set the sale value of the ships up, change it in internalssettings.
It's near the bottom and the default is 0.80 for ships you buy and pirate ships you
capture is 0.20. Bit stingy, I feel and my settings are 0.60 for pirate ships!
Build13 update2 is an update to go on top of 13!
The offer of a map does not work all the time. You can finish with empty hands!
Travel on the Worldmap: press R on your Keyboard and G for superfast.
Enjoy the game, I've done that for the last 3 years on and off! It's the best
Pirategame around thanks to our Modders!
Build 14 alpha 5 is still buggy, but getting better and less buggy of late!
If you like to follow up with that, follow Pieter's Instructions and you can't do wrong!
.....and if you do, there is always a happy Pirate to help you! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/keith.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":keith" border="0" alt="keith.gif" />
 
Many thanks for the civil greeting - you're not French by any chance...? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wp" border="0" alt="whistling.gif" />

Actually, money troubles are over. I raised Commerce skill to 7 and made a fortune selling
paprika and cinnamon to the smugglers in Redmond.. Gave the money to the loan-sharks
at Redmond and Fleur d'Falaise at 11% interest. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" />

Also, I got lucky and took a Spanish warship. Now I have a full fleet of four ships plus three
stat-maxed officers for my flagship.

Which reminds me! Is it possible to have more than four ships active in the fleet (not berthed)
at any one time? Also, can I transfer crew money directly to personal wealth somehow?
If not, how can I increase personal wealth, aside from governors' land grants and dividing the
plunder in non-salary mode?
 
for as far as i know, build 13 update 2 fixes the buildingset mod. you will also need i fix that has to be put on top of update 2 to make the ship berthing menu work again.
 
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I noticed that BuildingSet is set to 1, yet talking to an officer does not give me the option of building
new structures. According to another post, it is possible to build a house, for instance, if BuildSet
is enabled. I'm clearly ignorant about this part, so could someone offer guidance?
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The BuildingSet mod is disabled in Build 13, because it contained a whole lot of bugs. These bugs are fixed in Update 2 and the BuildingSet is re-enabled there. To answer your other question: Update 2 is not included in Build 13. Although I do hope to be able to make a new full Build 13.1 version soon.

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Also, one of the mods in Build13 decreases the sell price (my profits) on ships. Capturing and selling
ships was my main source of income in pre-Build13 PotC. How can I adjust this? Is it controlled by one of the
.c or .h source files under potc\programs ?
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The idea is that shipyards aren't very happy to buy stolen ships, so the buy price for stolen ships is much lower than for bought ships. And the price for ships acquired by any other means are somewhere inbetween. You can tweak this in PROGRAM\InternalSettings.h:
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->#define SHIPYARD_BOUGHTSHIP_SELL_MULT    0.80    // FLOAT - SY_RPG_STYLE - multiplier to sell price for a LEGIT ship (one you bought originally)
#define SHIPYARD_PIRATEDSHIP_SELL_MULT    0.20    // FLOAT - SY_RPG_STYLE - multiplier to sell price for a PIRATED ship (one you acquired through force, death or prisonment of captain) - sale prices for other ships gotten at sea are somewhere between this and BOUGHTSHIP_SELL_MULT<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

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- A random dude in Redmond offered me a treasure map for about 40,000 piasters. Is this a good buy?
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It could be a very good buy, but it can also be a dud. Depending on your luck, there will be a treasure or not. Also depending on your luck, the treasure is really large or not so large. Most people here think that treasures are a bit overpowered, so it's probably a good deal. The location of the treasure is written down in your QuestBook.

There are some bugs with the treasure items, but I figured out how to fix them. They're no big gamekilling bugs, it just makes it so that cursed coins don't appear in treasure chests and gold in there is useless. The next Build 13 Update will fix this.

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- On the subject of editing .c and .h files, can I make the ship move faster on the World Map? I wasn't
expecting Oxbay and Redmond to be so far apart on the new, more historically accurate Archipelago map.
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You can tweak the following settings in program\worldmap\worldmap.c:
<!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->#define MAPSPEED    0.6    // ccc mapships, slows worldmap down, stock setting 1.0
#define MAP_VOYAGELENGTH    8.0    // ccc , lets voyages take longer, stock setting 4.0<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->BTW: Does anyone think these settings should be put in InternalSettings.h? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

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Building set: I don't play it because it needs work still. I think the Bricks have problems, you have to carry Planks etc. in your hold and you have to have some experience.
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The BuildingSet should work pretty fine in Build 13 Update 2 and the Build 14 Alpha versions. There is no problem with bricks: They simply aren't used. All you need is planks and gold.

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Which reminds me! Is it possible to have more than four ships active in the fleet (not berthed)
at any one time?
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Unfortunately not, due to limitations in the game engine. There's not much we can do about it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

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Also, can I transfer crew money directly to personal wealth somehow?
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You can only donate personal wealth to crew money, not the other way around. Doing it the other way around would be stealing from the crew. In any case: It's the crew money that is used for all expenses. The personal wealth just shows how famous you are.

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If not, how can I increase personal wealth, aside from governors' land grants and dividing the
plunder in non-salary mode?
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You can't. Those are the only two ways in which you can increase your wealth.
 
your personal money is also used to buy a health upgrade in the apothecary in greenford.
 
Very thorough replies, excellent!

So, I'll lay B13 Update 2 and B14 latest on top of B13. Will I need to reinitialize, and if so, how? The docs reference reinitializing but it isn't clear how.

Also, after the patching, which NPC(s) can I speak to in order to build something? I'd like my own sweet termite-feast ramshackle hovel; such a crappy home will keep me out on the sea where I belong <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

That reminds me - ever think of a cooperative, forum-supported RPG? Forum members pick an officer position (captain, bos'n, paymaster, gunner, etc.) and jointly make decisions about what to buy, who to raid, etc. One player - or a third-party referee - executes the actions in the game and reports results. Just a sudden idea as I was typing.
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/poet.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hmm" border="0" alt="poet.gif" /> To install 14/5 go to Pieter site and follow his instructions.
It is very important to do that, so you don't get into a muddle!!!!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bookish.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mm" border="0" alt="bookish.gif" />
 
try the pirates RPG on this forum. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
 
After installing Build 14 Alpha 5 you'll need to start a new game. To build something, you just need to talk to an officer.
 
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