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what design...?

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DeBruce

Landlubber
Hi folk...

its me again... hope it will be my last question, so that u´re also able to play and not answering my questions :)

i´m looking for the ship i usually bought - it is (well it was in build 11) a frigate-design ... in in wonderfull dark-green with an unicorn infront...

i cant find such a frigate anymore in game... i searched all shipyards for that desgin. at the moment i´ve a fleet of 4 differnt frigates but none of them is right one...

any idea where i can find it?

PS: i guess its a dutch desgin, but there none dutch frigate is sold ....
 
DeBruce,
Never hesitate to ask a question around here, that's what the place is for, that, and offering people rum. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" /> (Even though that smiley has always looked more like beer to me...)

You're playing with Build 12, I gather, and I can assure you that that model is in the game. Many people prefer that model of frigate because it is the only one that gives you a clear view from the bow of what is directly in front of you. Remember that the stock in the shipyards is constantly changing, and though I do not recall which nationality that particular frigate is from, if you keep checking the shipyards, one will turn up eventually. Either that or hunt one down on the open seas. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sailr.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":sail" border="0" alt="sailr.gif" />

Again, there are a lot of us around here who like trying to answer questions, don't hesitate to ask anything you want. That's one of the things that make PA, PA!

Good Luck! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheers" border="0" alt="par-ty.gif" />
 
In build 12 as well as stock, nations do not have specific color schemes, all nations have all schemes available (excepting the Mephisto, and the BP which can't be bought).
{ However, the 12-gun cutter had a bug (until this very second) that made it only available in British shipyards. }

Since you have build 12, all you need do is keep asking the shipwright about his stock and eventually the right frigate should show up. It's hard to tell, though, just from the pics.

If you give up on waiting, there's some code I can have you put in your console to make your current frigate1 (or frigate3 or whatever frig you have) into a frigate2.
 
That skin/model is "Frigate2". Since it's entirely random what you will find when you buy a ship anywhere, it's best to try to FIND them - I suggest you settle with a frigate, and do a lot of pirate-hunting missions for the governors. USUALLY you will be pitted against another ship of the same class as yours, so you may be more likely to run into her than blindly buying frigate after frigate at the shipyards. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" />

You could also edit your BuildSettings.h to make your starting ship a Frigate2. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />
 
I have a few observations to add.

1) Everytime you have a conversation with the Shipwright it will cost you 2 days in port plus lower your rations and changes your morale cause your pirate crew gets hungry. and cranky over time.) Just something to think about when car shopping.)

2) In my experience, I have found that the Pirate hunting missions gives you the exact same ship almost every darned time. Even down to the speed and carrying capacity. I like to be a trader and what I do is run on over to Isle Mule buy one Galleon with a load capacity of 5040 tons and after 3 short Pirate missions I have a nice little merchant fleet consisting of the exact same 5040 ton Galleons! The ship you control as the player when asking the Governor for the mission is the one that I find is generated for that mission.

Of course I suppose it is possible to get a different ship, but It has not happened to me yet. Now the other Pirate ships that generate along the coast are a different story. While Pirate hunting you might be able to run into one of them. Owning a Galleon seems to generate lots of coastal frigates and Corvettes. Of course that could change with the difficulty setting and level you are playing at. Not sure on that.
 
1. Yeah, that's fixed in post-12, CCC made it dependent on repair amount.
2. That's weird--that means the getship function that runs on quest generation is returning an invalid ship (and the 'fix', when that's detected, is to assign your own ship type). Can you send me your quests_reaction.c file? And I'll send you back one that logs each step.
Then we can figure out why it's not working for you.
 
USUALLY you get the same ship, yes. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /> So unless the pirate you attack has a companion ship, you can capture another of the same ship. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /> But how would it change, Nathan, if you would change it? So you get more of a variety? So you get a ship that is a class above? If that were true, theoretically, you could start with a lugger and do, say ten pirate hunting missions and get a MOW at the end... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

(yes, I know the pirates don't have a MOW) <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
Cat: That's how it's coded to work, yes. The whole 'same ship as me' thing is simply a failsafe if the other process doesn't work (remember the 'press T to fix pirate hunting' thing? Well, this is the automated version of that).
Basically, the pirate ship generator works like this:
A. Get player rank
B. Cap rank to (8-shipclass)*2 if ShipCap is on.
C. rank for shipclass calcs = (B/2 + rand(B/2)) * (0.67 + (Diff-1)/5)
D. Minclass = 7 - ((C - rand(3))/2)
E. Maxclass = 7 - ((C + rand(3))/2)
F. Cap maxclass based on player rank, and maxpirate class, and must not be class 7
G. Do same for minclass
H. Get shiptype based on F and G. If there is no shiptype available with minclass G and maxclass F, assign player's ship.
 
<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shrug" border="0" alt="dunno.gif" /> I never knew... <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-NathanKell+Jun 25 2005, 08:13 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NathanKell @ Jun 25 2005, 08:13 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Heh, for once a reversal: it's not a feature, it's a bug! <div align="right">[snapback]118523[/snapback]</div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock:" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" /> INCONCEIVABLE!!! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_eek.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock:" border="0" alt="icon_eek.gif" />

How in the WORLD did we ever let that slip by us? <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" /> <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
Sorry Nathan I was out of town for the weekend.

I am kinda stupie when it comest to sending stuff.

Tried to use the quick E mail feature here couldnt find the attachment method to hook up the file you asked for. Can I send it to you regular E mail of am I just missing something on how to send it thru the board?

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/diomed.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dio" border="0" alt="diomed.gif" />

OOPS. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" /> I think I just found it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-NEONDEON+Jun 29 2005, 12:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NEONDEON @ Jun 29 2005, 12:18 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sorry Nathan I was out of town for the weekend.

I am kinda stupie when it comest to sending stuff. 

Tried to use the quick E mail feature here couldnt find the attachment method to hook up the file you asked for.  Can I send it to you regular E mail of am I just missing something on how to send it thru the board?

<img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/diomed.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dio" border="0" alt="diomed.gif" />

OOPS.  <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />  I think I just found it. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":modding" border="0" alt="modding.gif" />
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Well that didnt work.
 
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