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Just another mod idea.

KevO44

Lord High Admiral of the Seven Seas
Storm Modder
Pirate Legend
Another Idea:

You should see officers walking the streets of cities. Not your officers, but random military officers. And if you talk to someone with a lower rank then yourself, they'll refer to you as sir. And if you talk with someone of higher rank. You must show them proper respect, and call them sir.
 
Or get into a fight. But an idea like proper respect for rank would only apply in a mility setting, it seems to me, as "rank" among ordinary seamen or pirates would have been an amorphous idea based most on skill.
 
Haha, some of the stories I've read of the early sea dogs in the late 16th, early 17th centuries really shows how chaotic "rank" was amongst the sailors, especially before the Royal Navy came into its own. Captains would raise a red pennent (not like the red flag pirates would use) to show that they were claiming superiority. The problem was, nearly every captain assumed he was superior and there were all sorts of problems with what I will call "sea rage." If two ships were both waving the red pennent they'd pull up along side one another and the captains would yell back and forth at each other. It really was like a pissing contest.

Here's a story I read once a while back,

There was one occasion in which two ships both claimed superiority in the Downs. One ship was a merchant, the other was the Kings personal Yacht. Now you'd think that the Kings yacht would be recognized, but it wasn't. So, the King's Captain broke out the King's Colors. The Merchant captain, thinking this was a trick, also broke out the King's colors. They pulled up a long side each other screaming their heads off. It wasn't until William showed himself on deck that the merchant dipped his pennent and sailed off as fast as he could before his sailors could be impressed.

It feels more like a sailors legend than actual history, but I think it captures the absurdity of "claiming superiority." Yeah, pissing contest sums it up well.
 
Sounds real enough. I live around Toledo, and I just read a story where Ohio Governor Lucas came in the 1830s, but no one knew what he looked like, so they threw several big welcome parties before the real guy came. I've heard other similar stories. People just didn't know what their leaders looked like then, without `ever-present` media coverage.

So, is there a way we could apply any of this to the game? I like old sailor's lore... I wish SD2 could reflect more of it.
 
Toledo still has their name, we're copycats. <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="icon_wink.gif" />
 
Toledo Ohio was probably founded by Spaniards who wanted to remember their home in Spain. That's typical of how cities get their names.

Where were we? We were having a street fight, Rico! <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="xD:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
 
I should know the history of my own area... I don't know if you can really determine who founded what based on the `place-names`; they're a mixed bag of French, English, Spanish, Native American &c. There's a Hicksville or two, `honest-to`-goodness, in the area. And then there's Hell, Michigan...

Anyway, more fights. I think gamblers in taverns should start a fight with you if you win too often. Accusing you of cheating with weighted dice...
 
apparently there's a 'manchester' in the `north-eastern` us, which wasn't originally called that, but they renamed it to manchester when they started up a bit of a cotton industry like the original manchester <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Perfekt+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Perfekt)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmm... my country was a British colony which gained it's independence less than half century ago.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

and there are still a fair number of brits there, aren't there. who speak only english. and english is the official language <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> i love singapore to bits, by the way, it's one of my favourite places <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />
 
<!--QuoteBegin-Kieron+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kieron)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and there are still a fair number of brits there, aren't there. who speak only english. and english is the official language <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> i love singapore to bits, by the way, it's one of my favourite places <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Well... this country is mixed with people from all over, of course the majority is chinese. What can I say... we chinese breeds like rabbits. Anyway, Singapore is one of the cleanest and safest country in the world, an extremely good place to visit... but living here is terrible, standard of living here is extremely high...

Gee... got carried away again. Don't mind me.
 
Well... I'm a not `pure-blooded` chinese. Basically, I have Manchu chinese, Han chinese, indonesian and Paranakan (Native race of Singapore) blood in me...

Paranakans are extremely weird, even in the beginning when the British first came to our small little country. The Paranakan culture is a mix of malay (They wear malay clothings), chinese (Cook and eat chinese dishes) and use lots of western items. Very rare for olden days, since most races prefer to stick to their own culture. Maybe that's why Singapore is currently like this.

...got carried away again.
 
How's the gum situation in Singapore, by the way? You need a signed document to buy a pack, and even then it's strictly the "nicotine" or "clean teeth" kind?

Oh, and gambling. I hope so. Should be a better variety of games, with maybe a little more than chance determining your win. Heck, maybe something on a larger scale: pistol target practice or boat races or something. Maybe, as with the Sir and his Golden Hind, a government will pay you for circling the archipelago or some silly business?

Speaking of races, have I overheard correctly in some of the taverns an audio file where a guy mentions the Kessel Run (from Star Wars)?
 
Eh, all manner of chewing gums are still banned in Singapore... of course you can smuggle them in and the customs officer usually won't bother with a few sticks or a small pack, unless you try to smuggle an entire box. After some recent 'diplomatic' stuff with the USA, the Singapore government is considering to lift the ban...

And gambling is good! There's too little gambling in this pirate game... then again, this game is Teen and Disney.
 
Yeah, how about we sneak an old Solotaire program into the game. Like, one from '93, a real basic Win3.11 version. So you can spend the whole day sitting in a tavern playing cards with yourself... heh.

I thought they already lifted the gum ban in Singapore. I read about it in the news months ago. Meanwhile, as I understand, prostitution is still legal there...
 
Hmm... not sure, I haven't heard any news about our government lifting the ban on gums and no one's selling them. Oh well...

Oh, can make it that you'll be able to gamble with other captains and win over their ships! Or lose your ship...
 
no, you're not getting carried away, don't worry <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" /> a mix of cultures is the best thing a country can possibly have. people who come from areas which are purely one race tend to be `closed-minded`. and you say you're not '`pure-blood`,' but i challenge you to find one person who *is*. except maybe the european royal families. and look what's happened to *them*...

why do you say it's terrible to live in singapore? hasn't it got a higher quality of life than any of it's neighbours? and a very `welfare-oriented` government. and lots and LOTS of cleaners <img src="http://www.piratesahoy.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />
 
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