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Fixed Disable Smuggling on Personal Islands

Pieter Boelen

Pieter Boelen

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@imado552 reported being caught smuggling on his own island by his own soldiers.
Based on that, I changed some code around so that personal islands would get their smuggling goods removed and the Smuggling Quest disabled.
As @pedrwyth rightly pointed out, doing that does make sense BUT makes Personal islands a bit boring.

Having looked at this more thoroughly since then, I don't understand why this might be possible!
The islands' "smuggling nation" is NEVER set to "Personal" on purpose.
And that "smuggling nation" is what controls the nationality of the coastguard ships and soldiers.
Which means that what @imado552 reports should basically be impossible.

If the "Personal soldiers" truly do occur, I want to know exactly when and where.
Ideally including screenshots, a savegame and for certain a compile.log showing the relevant quest cases that were executed.

Because I don't have those details to go on, I think I'll revert the relevant code back to last week's state.
That means islands with Personal towns KEEP their original "smuggling nation" and contraband goods.
May not make 100% sense, but should make for less boring gameplay.

If anyone thinks it is truly better to remove the smuggling goods altogether, please say so here.
The change is easily made. I just want to know what it is that we actually want for this.
 
@imado552, @Grey Roger, @ANSEL, @Jason, @Hylie Pistof and @anyone else: Any final thoughts?
How is it that we should want this?

Current situation:
- Island smuggling nation NEVER changes to personal; smuggling to your own islands therefore remains possible and the Governor Smuggling Quest remains available

Alternate approach:
- Remove all smuggling to islands owned by the player

Until I hear otherwise, I am sticking to the current situation.
 
I would go with your original plan - change the smuggling nation and disable smuggling to your Personal colonies. You can always smuggle somewhere else. If you can't because you've conquered the whole Caribbean then it's probably time to start a new game anyway because you've done everything in this one. :bounce

But governor ship-hunting quests ought to be available - it means there's a ship out there making trouble for your colony, so it's up to you to do something about it!

Having said that, I never smuggle anyway and don't have much use for PERSONAL_NATION, so if someone who does a lot of smuggling and a lot of conquering on his own behalf prefers it another way, his choice takes precedence over mine.
 
Pieter Boelen said:
@imado552, @Grey Roger, @ANSEL, @Jason, @Hylie Pistof and @anyone else: Any final thoughts?
How is it that we should want this?

Current situation:
- Island smuggling nation NEVER changes to personal; smuggling to your own islands therefore remains possible and the Governor Smuggling Quest remains available

Alternate approach:
- Remove all smuggling to islands owned by the player

Until I hear otherwise, I am sticking to the current situation.
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i don't mind having it there but don't like to keep on repeating the quest over and over..... and being caught by my own mans in my own land look qeird to me its like you are the ruler of the island i will upload some screen shots if you want i even gave you my save game last time to see for yourself
so for me if that can be fixed i don't mind smuggling quest but to have what after it (i mean after accepting the quest)like that caught maybe killed if you are not good then no for me either ways thanks for pointing that out
 
Grey Roger said:
I would go with your original plan - change the smuggling nation and disable smuggling to your Personal colonies. You can always smuggle somewhere else. If you can't because you've conquered the whole Caribbean then it's probably time to start a new game anyway because you've done everything in this one. :bounce

But governor ship-hunting quests ought to be available - it means there's a ship out there making trouble for your colony, so it's up to you to do something about it!

Having said that, I never smuggle anyway and don't have much use for PERSONAL_NATION, so if someone who does a lot of smuggling and a lot of conquering on his own behalf prefers it another way, his choice takes precedence over mine.
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i always play under personal nation in free play when thinking about making my own story i don't want to be connected to one of the great nation (maybe thinking i'm from far away) so things like this matter for me cause after conquering all the towns in the carribean i like to think i need to defend them by attacking enemies near it doing quest that i didn't do building up a massive fleet all that kind so that i don't get bored that fast but i don't reach the stage where i conquered all the map that fast so those quest are important to me in someway!!!!
 
Grey Roger said:
But governor ship-hunting quests ought to be available
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It is and will be. I was only talking about the Governor Smuggling Quest.

imado552 said:
i don't mind having it there but don't like to keep on repeating the quest over and over..... and being caught by my own mans in my own land look qeird to me its like you are the ruler of the island i will upload some screen shots if you want i even gave you my save game last time to see for yourself
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Didn't have time to check your save, sorry. Exactly WHEN AND WHERE do you get caught by your own men?
From what I can tell from the code, that should not be possible.

I never looked into that Smuggling Quest myself; that is Levis' stuff and possible slightly on the unfinished side.
If the governor is NOT personal, does that quest disappear properly after you complete it?
It could be a separate bug that has NOTHING to do with personal towns, after all.
 
wait a sec i'll take some screen shots from my save game
never tested it in other nations yet i saw it the first time when i was talking to my town ruler to take quest for hunting ships(i was in need of money) maybe a'll test that later
 
I almost never smuggle, I have done some test about smuggling thats all.
So I find the current situation good at it is. But::shrug
 
i don't know why but if i take the quest in my town i can't take it from my other towns and for no reason the smuggler who you find in the tavern in my case turk never speak to me even though i have the quest from the governor he said what can i help you with and my only respond is nothing i used to answer another answer ???
but if i say again i'll say remove it i changed my mind since you can get from any other nations
so me mate i say remove it from personal town thanks
 
Very well then: All smuggling goods will be removed as soon as you take a town for yourself.
Governor Smuggling Quest is also disabled.
 
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