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Cursed Ship Decks and Towns

Pieter Boelen

Pieter Boelen

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<b>Pieter wrote:</b>

Hello SuperDurnius,

I was just looking at your black deck reskins (holy moly; you really did ALL of them! How can we ever use ALL???) and was wondering if it were at all possible to make a "deckLowVSBig" version with the big ship black and the other one with normal colors (black/blue and yellow, if possible) for use in the Black Pearl vs HMS Interceptor boarding scene.


<b>SuperDurnius wrote:</b>

I could try to make one, but I guess it might be using the same texture files for both, small and large one. If so, It'll required to edit texture maps via maya to use separate texture files.

I'll note you when I'll check that...

in max of 20 mins


<b>Pieter wrote:</b>

Thanks. Of course if both parts DO use the same texture, my idea would be a lot more complicated.
If so, just forget about it for the time being and do whatever else you were planning.
It was just a random thought I was having. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mybad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":facepalm" border="0" alt="mybad.gif" />

BTW: Do you have any thoughts on how to use ALL of your black ship deck textures?
Seems a bit troublesome to me, considering we don't have enough black ships to use them. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />


<b>SuperDurnius wrote:</b>

I hexed the floorings texture, to use my black I already made for other decks... And it is used for boths, smal and large one... So I gues other textures is used for both too....

But I like your Idea, sorry, I cant help at the moment (I can't even crack maya for now <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> ), you could contact damski or any other model editor, because that do not require any model editing, only swapping texture maps directories... If they'll do that, they can use my black textures or send me models and I'll make black ones for those...

For now, I do as you said, forget about that, but I hope you won't do that and try to advance with someones other help...

P.S. If you'll find someone to edit texture maps for deckLowVSBig, you also could ask for deckMediumVSBig...

Sorry again, that I can't help, realy great Idea...

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->BTW: Do you have any thoughts on how to use ALL of your black ship deck textures?
Seems a bit troublesome to me, considering we don't have enough black ships to use them. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have:
1: Make as normal decks. Even if we have only one black ship, it, I think, deserve to have black decks, especially when they are already made...

2: Ship wreckage on beach (how many we have in different Islands?) If you enter them, you might explore entire ship throe black decks and cargo holds and etc... it could be another dungeon, only in different look...

I Like the second Idea... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />


<b>Pieter wrote:</b>

In the Development Resources, your black decks are used for the Black Pearl and could also be used for any other ships.
We could use them for other cursed ships too maybe.
And I do like that "alternate dungeons" idea! Maybe we can put the skeletons THERE instead of in the dungeons.
Would make more sense, no? Do you think maybe we should make a forum thread for this?
Wasn't there already a forum thread? Somewhere...?


<b>SuperDurnius wrote:</b>

I agree, skeletons fit there perfect... Plz make the thread, because I already heading to work...

And another Idea of alternate city. I meen abandoned city... In some island, which is new one city norma and another is abandoned. I meen tavern, shipyard, everything is, but no people and "black/bad/old textures". At night you can fight skeletons/mummies/satanists/other and might be find something at random...

Or with some skeletons as normal tavern/shipyard/store keeper, some good recolor of skeleton as a governor and make cursed city, with enemy spawn at night...

If there is an cursed ships, why can't there be any cursed towns/camps...
 
Curious <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
 
It does have me interested about what could be done.
Makes me think of the said-to-be-haunted-hospital in Antigua; maybe we could do something funny/weird with that as well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rofl" border="0" alt="24.gif" />
 
Myself is more interested in the discussion about BigVSLow and their different textures. That could be really nice.
 
Yes... that's interesting <i>too</i>. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />
 
Funny:

Satanist as church keeper, skeletons as civilians, mummies as city guardians, some recolors for skeleton tavern and shipyard keeper, lone shark too, some merchants at the street, walking "rich undead"... And everyone is with normal dialogues...

Only Satanist in church talks normal, and says to you, that all of them are cursed, this "city" like that is already fore ~200 years (from ~1600, first colonized city in Caribbean), and all people don't even know, that they are cursed...

There even could be some quest, given by satanist... I meen only normal human there...

and afcourse, if there could be some cursed harbor, it could be defended by some black ships... If you'll need some of black ships, note me, I'll make some recolours...

Edit: And some funny dialogue options, like : 'hey, how old are you' or 'whats the years of your born? Oh, so your are 150 years old? No, I'm not making full of you'...
 
It does sound funny. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />
 
Hidden in some way, yes. And that'd give us a SENSICAL place to put Vanderdecken too. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=310992:date=Apr 5 2009, 11:38 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 5 2009, 11:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=310992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hidden in some way, yes. And that'd give us a SENSICAL place to put Vanderdecken too. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yes, just use Vanderdecken as a shipyard owner
 
Location?:

A) Isla de muerta?

B) Incas temple in khel rhoa? If you go to temple, you'll have to cross it and enter to that place, where in normal storyline you find that artifact, their could be hidden entrance somewhere there (little edit location, to have doors somewhere (paintet <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />))
Afcourse in normal storyline you have to pass Incas temple 2 times, one for artifact to defeat black pearl, and another to get to the secret doors)

When you pass throe the doors, you have to pass some cave (my uploaded caves from Pirates History???), some jungle location... And you enter the town... And every time the same way ???

After that you somehow "wake up" city, and around khael rhoa appears some defending black ships... And even new nation "ghosts" or "cursed ones" or etc... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

ok... I started to dream... Probably little to much <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=310997:date=Apr 5 2009, 01:08 PM:name=marbatico)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (marbatico @ Apr 5 2009, 01:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=310997"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=310992:date=Apr 5 2009, 11:38 AM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 5 2009, 11:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=310992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hidden in some way, yes. And that'd give us a SENSICAL place to put Vanderdecken too. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->yes, just use Vanderdecken as a shipyard owner<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Indeed; why not? If we DO have a cursed town anyway... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
Of course we'd first need to make that location. But it does sound like a lot of fun! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />
 
<!--quoteo(post=310998:date=Apr 5 2009, 01:11 PM:name=SuperDurnius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperDurnius @ Apr 5 2009, 01:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=310998"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ok... I started to dream... Probably little to much <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What uploaded caves are those?
Anyway, I'd be inclined to say the town shouldn't be <i>too</i> hard to find. And, if possible, not be on one of the default places either.
We already used Khael Roa and Isla de Muerte; I'd like something new again.

At one point some work was done (and subsequently lost) on enabling the player to go to the <i>other</i> side of Falaise de Fleur, accross the bridge you see.
Maybe there could be something <i>weird</i> on that side?

Anyway, I do think we should first try and do something about that rumoured haunted hospital in Antigua port.
 
<!--quoteo(post=311001:date=Apr 5 2009, 02:16 PM:name=Pieter Boelen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pieter Boelen @ Apr 5 2009, 02:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=311001"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What uploaded caves are those?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In FTP:
/SuperDurnius/From_OtherModsOrGames/Pirate's Tale_Locations_models.7z
/SuperDurnius/From_OtherModsOrGames/Pirate's Tale_Locations_Textures.7z

These are my unseen locations from Pirate's tale mod, I guess they might be from any part of carsairs3
 
<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hi.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":gday" border="0" alt="hi.gif" /> all.

I was considering creating a cursed cabin and a number of cursed crewmen for a SotL of mine, (also cursed) and had two ideas/queries that I figured would be useful to mention here.

First: playing with fire. In the Maltese Knights' abbey, if you have full effects on, you kill the monks, they flame for a few seconds. Is there any way to mod characters that are permanently on fire? I was thinking along the lines of charred skeletons, demons, etc. to add variety to the cursed citizenry.

Second: Candles. I'm going to fool around with locators and try placing candle flames at random in a room, say a dark cabin or a church; kinda like tongues of flame floating in mid- air. Will attempt this in the next few days and post results.


Ps. the build is looking and playing fantastically <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bow" border="0" alt="bow.gif" /> . Am working on cursed reskins of the indiaman, the sevenprovincien, and warship 11. Yes! More ships for me to sell <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thpirateshipff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":piratesahoy!" border="0" alt="thpirateshipff.gif" />
 
Nice to see you again, Vanderdecken! Welcome back. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/w00t.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":woot" border="0" alt="w00t.gif" />

1. Fire is added attached to x,y,z locators and not attached to characters.
You might be able to achieve what you want by generating some temporary fire at the position of a character every so many seconds.
That way you'll have a character leaving a trail of temporary fire. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":cheeky" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen1.gif" />

2. I think that should work. Spooky. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/piratesing.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":shock" border="0" alt="piratesing.gif" />

Apparently you approve of the purpose we found for your character model, eh? Glad to hear that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doff.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":doff" border="0" alt="doff.gif" />

BTW: I wouldn't mind some cursed green seaweedy reskins of some ship locations so we can use those for the Flying Dutchman. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/razz.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":razz" border="0" alt="razz.gif" />
 
Allllrighty then. Here we go. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/danse1.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dance" border="0" alt="danse1.gif" /> I was exploring idea #2, the candles. The effects are invisible from certain angles/distances; however, i had just ten or so locators up, so adding more should solve that. Since it would be tedious to create the hundred or so candle locators individually, I'll probably end up attaching ten or so to an invisible model and just clone several of those in the same area. I'm going to try this with the Puerto Rico church next. Here are candles, "stars"(3rd pic), and fire. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/trio-pirates.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":trio" border="0" alt="trio-pirates.gif" />


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Looks like fun! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/me.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":onya" border="0" alt="me.gif" />
 
Maybe we could have some fires during Town 'boardings' too <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
 
Certainly could. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":yes" border="0" alt="yes.gif" />
 
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