ctd speculation

[Hylie Pistof]

My current game has died again. RIP. It is getting farther every time, and I thank you for your work. It's the old assigned to quest group error. I've been looking around in sea.c and found a few lines I recognize. As near as I can tell someone set it up that way to stop some ctds in the past. Anyway, here are the logs if anyone wants to look.

Also, I have found that if it dies because of this one can go back to a save from before it happens and play through ok. Sometimes. Too, look at the screenshots Keith posted of the crowded harbor. That is what happens when it doesn't QUITE ctd.

 

[Pieter Boelen]

It's the old assigned to quest group error. I've been looking around in sea.c and found a few lines I recognize. As near as I can tell someone set it up that way to stop some ctds in the past.

If you're talking about this line, that was me and it was for these CTDs so apparently it didn't help.

if (bAllies(rCharacter)) { Trace("SEA: Error: You assigned allied character " + GetMySimpleName(rCharacter) + " with ID " + rCharacter.id + " to quest group... This is an error!"); continue; } // PB: Attempted fix for CTDs at some islands at some points in some storylines

REALLY stupid problem, this. :boom

 

[Hylie Pistof]

Yes it is. It's like I'm on a timer. I can only play for so many hours before it ctds and I have to start over. This is pure speculation, but methinks that for some reason it can't create groups, like egroup and ourgroup, so the player gets lumped into another group called questgroup. What array needs resizing and why?

 

[Pieter Boelen]

I haven't the foggiest. :wacko:

 

[konradk]

 The array which is said to require resizing is AIGroups, but it's already quite big (its size is 64). I think that those problems occur due to some error in code, so instead deleting groups which aren't used anymore, program tries to create new until reaching maximum amount. After exceeding that number it eventually crashes. I'll download those logs to verify that guessing and try to fix it.

pirate_kk

 

[Pieter Boelen]

Thanks a lot!

 

[cbb018]

hello I think I'll ask this question here. I have read a way to minimize experiencing CTD's by changing a line with world... something but i forgot where did I read that. I mostly CTD when going from deck to sea and from worldmap to sea...

 

[Hylie Pistof]

I used to get those ctds a lot, but that was 6-8 months ago. It was usually sea.ia group. Is your game fully patched?

 

[Pieter Boelen]

This was for Build 13; it involved setting MAPSPEED to 1.0 at the top of PROGRAM\Worldmap\worldmap.c .
It already is by default in Build 14 Beta 1.

 

[cbb018]

I used to get those ctds a lot, but that was 6-8 months ago. It was usually sea.ia group. Is your game fully patched?

STOCK + BUILD 14 Beta 1 Full + Patch 5 that is...

 

[cbb018]

This was for Build 13; it involved setting MAPSPEED to 1.0 at the top of PROGRAM\Worldmap\worldmap.c .
It already is by default in Build 14 Beta 1.

Oh ok, its like I'm developing a phobia now when going to sea lol... "I think i better stay away from the port... what should I do on land?" Don't go to sea Rapier or you will see the black screen of death...

 

[Hylie Pistof]

Is this a recent development? The way it worked for me was that the game worked well for a while, and then this started. There was no way to stop it, so I just started a new game. :j3

 

[cbb018]

mine is that at install its fine after a day of playing it starts to deteriorate

 

[Hylie Pistof]

Reinstall? Nobody likes to do that, but I do it often because I have no patience for the errors. I have done at least three installs since patch 5 came out.

 

[cbb018]

I'm having this errors and I don't know what they mean...

RUNTIME ERROR - file: interface\interface.c; line: 1561
no memory
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
function 'NativeFindCharacter' stack error
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
integer function return reference value
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 234
Incorrect copy from array to single
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
function 'NativeFindCharacter' stack error
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
integer function return reference value
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 236
Incorrect copy from array to single
RUNTIME ERROR - file: interface\interface.c; line: 1561
no memory
RUNTIME ERROR - file: interface\interface.c; line: 1561
no memory
RUNTIME ERROR - file: seadogs.c; line: 802
Save - ARef to non existing attributes branch
RUNTIME ERROR - file: interface\interface.c; line: 1561
no memory
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialog_func.c; line: 237
function 'TranslateString' stack error
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialog_func.c; line: 237
function 'TranslateString' stack error
RUNTIME ERROR - file: battle_interface\loginterface.c; line: 186
CreateMessage: Invalid Data
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialogs\Cabinfight_dialog.c; line: 992
Using reference variable without initializing
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialogs\Cabinfight_dialog.c; line: 992
Using reference variable without initializing
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialogs\Cabinfight_dialog.c; line: 992
Using reference variable without initializing
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialogs\Cabinfight_dialog.c; line: 993
Using reference variable without initializing
RUNTIME ERROR - file: dialogs\Cabinfight_dialog.c; line: 993
Using reference variable without initializing
RUNTIME ERROR - file: interface\interface.c; line: 1561
no memory
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
function 'NativeFindCharacter' stack error
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
integer function return reference value
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 234
Incorrect copy from array to single
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
function 'NativeFindCharacter' stack error
RUNTIME ERROR - file: globals.c; line: 258
integer function return reference value
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 236
Incorrect copy from array to single
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 5053
invalid index -1 [size:800]
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 5053
invalid array index
RUNTIME ERROR - file: sea_ai\AIShip.c; line: 5053
function 'SwapCabinChests' stack error

What i did is installed the game in a dedicated drive just for POTC then reinstall windows no update no other softwares no internet and it haven't crashed so far. So what POTC needs is a dedicated computer? I don't know but it is working

 

[Hylie Pistof]

A dedicated gaming computer maybe. I use 2 hard drives. A small one for windoze and the utilities needed to keep it working, and a large one with all my important stuff on it, like PotC.

The "no memory" thing is worrisome, but the others are fairly common. PotC is just a very buggy program, which is one reason for porting it over to the COAS engine.