Alpha 7 problems

Celtoi 937 · Feb 18, 2008

So, I've been playin around with alpha six for a while, and I thought I'd check out alpha 7. So, I followed the instructions on Pieter's page. I was all excited and such, and then I go to start the game, and I get an abnormal program termination, and i cant even generate error logs. soooo.....
suggestions?

morgan terror · Feb 19, 2008

i really wouldn't have done that if i where you. that version is highly unstable and has some pretty bad bugs. i've heard of the problem before, but don't know the fix.

Pieter Boelen · Feb 19, 2008

What do you mean "you can't generate error logs"? You don't know how to generate them or they simply do not appear? Did you install the missing files? If so, make sure you DON'T extract the INI files.

Celtoi 937 · Feb 19, 2008

Wait, huh? First, I've enabled error logs, but they dont even show up, its like the engine can't even get far enough to be able to generate logs. I did indeed put in the missing files, what do you mean by:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If so, make sure you DON'T extract the INI files.</div>
So, you mean in the missing files extract everything but the INI files on top of the game?

And to Morgan: Yeah, I know, I'm just curious. Bugs annoy me, but I learn more about the way PotC works when I deal more with them.

EDIT: Oh and now I can't get Alpha 6 to work either <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :modding

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EDIT2: Ok, I'm starting from scratch, right from the stock game, and all the way up. I can't figure out what happened.

Pieter Boelen · Feb 20, 2008

Neither can I. Hope it will work for you now. systemlog and compile.log should appear as soon as you start the game, even when the game quits afterwards. If they don't appear either, something REALLY weird is going on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So, you mean in the missing files extract everything but the INI files on top of the game?</div>Indeed. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :yes

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Celtoi 937 · Feb 21, 2008

Well, I've just kinda given up. I installed it from scratch, all the way up. I all works until I get to alpha 7. I just cant get it to work. I'll just leave it for now I guess. Although my logs in alpha 6 still don't show up. They show up in the main game directory right?

Estharos · Feb 22, 2008

I'm pretty sure your problem is the ini file that Pieter told you to not extract. This is How I install the game up to Alpha7 not the plus one. But first extract the missing_files_for_alpha7.zip in a separate folder and delete the ini folder in resource.

Now install the stock game
After install the builb13 final and run the RunMe.bat
After install Builb6 and run the preset.bat first then the RunMe.bat second then delete the preset.bat file
After install Builb6 update2 no need to run any .bat file
After install Build7 by running the installer no need to run any .bat file the installer will do it itself
Last install the missing_files_for_alpha7, the one that you remove the ini folder

Run the game it should work, reset the control set your setting the way you like and enjoy the game. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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<b>Cheers,</b> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheers

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Celtoi 937 · Feb 22, 2008

hmmmm, thanks Estharos, I think you pointed out my problem. I'll give it a try. And whilst I be thinkin about it.......

1st....... COMPUTERS SUCK....... thank you

2nd.......... I have problems when I board. As in, I board a ship. Kill all the bad guys, and then the little unlocked lock that shows up to let you into the next deck doesnt show up, I continually try to get out, but can't, so I am forced to load from a previous save, which sucks. SOOOOOOOOOOOO,,,,,, any suggestions?

And before anyone asks I already fixed the Mapspeed to 1.0
THanks for the help

Estharos · Feb 22, 2008

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtoi 937 @ Feb 21 2008, 10:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=240147"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>hmmmm, thanks Estharos, I think you pointed out my problem. I'll give it a try. And whilst I be thinkin about it.......

1st....... COMPUTERS SUCK....... thank you

2nd.......... I have problems when I board. As in, I board a ship. Kill all the bad guys, and then the little unlocked lock that shows up to let you into the next deck doesnt show up, I continually try to get out, but can't, so I am forced to load from a previous save, which sucks. SOOOOOOOOOOOO,,,,,, any suggestions?

And before anyone asks I already fixed the Mapspeed to 1.0
THanks for the help</div>

To Change level on a deck just hit the space bar once you kill everyone or as soon you see the sword and pistol appear in the upper left corner. it should work.

<b>Cheers,</b> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheers

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Pieter Boelen · Feb 22, 2008

There tend to be bugs with boarding, especially in the more recent Alpha versions. There <i>is</i> a reason why we recommend people not to use anything above Alpha 6. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_confused.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":?" border="0" alt="icon_confused.gif" />

Celtoi 937 · Feb 23, 2008

Aye, pieter, but I only have 13 final installed at the moment. ?? and to estharos, yeah, I sit there for ten minutes after killin everyone pressin the space bar, it doesnt work.

Estharos · Feb 23, 2008

I guess you will have to save every time you enter battle to avoid long save lost. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/boom.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":boom" border="0" alt="boom.gif" />

<b>Cheers,</b> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/par-ty.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :cheers

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Pieter Boelen · Feb 23, 2008

That's odd; I thought boarding WAS good in Build 13. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :modding

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Celtoi 937 · Feb 23, 2008

Nah, I think it's fine, my game just tends to be a bit quirky. It only happens rarely, but I think its just a player specific thing, all my programs run that way. My machine just has a few little personality problems. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :rolleyes:

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Pieter Boelen · Feb 23, 2008

And people say computers have no personality/fantasy/will of their own. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

morgan terror · Feb 23, 2008

i'd be more than happy to exchange computers with those people.

Celtoi 937 · Feb 26, 2008

Since I had a day off school due to snow, I gave it another go, and now I at least got some logs to go with the problem. I installed the game from scratch, using the "Build Installation Order" thread. I still get the same error, but at least I have error logs, so here we go......

error
<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
Invalid Expression
COMPILE ERROR - file: kam_generalfunctions.c; line: 112
missed ')'</div>

System
<div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>Scanning modules\
Loading modules...
Loaded 0
Reset...
Initializing CORE...
Creating atoms space: 128
done
initializing complete
User Rised Exception
C:\PROJECTS\DRIVE_V2\ENGINE\SOURCES\Core.cpp line 526
fail to create program</div>

There ye have it. What did I do wrong?
Thanks everyone!

Pieter Boelen · Feb 26, 2008

What did you install? Alpha 7 again? What order? Did you test the game between the various installation steps? That would help in figuring out what didn't go right. Also be sure to check out <a href="http://forum.piratesahoy.net//index.php?showtopic=11643" target="_blank">this</a> thread.

Celtoi 937 · Feb 26, 2008

That thread you linked to was the order I used, It all works up until I start dealing with Alpha 7. I get up through Alpha 6 update 2, which works fine, and once I put in alpha 7, and all its various components, it doesnt work, so, thats where I stand.

Pieter Boelen · Feb 26, 2008

So you install Alpha 7 and the missing files (excluding the INI files) and then suddenly it doesn't work anymore? That's really quite weird. It should at least run. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/modding.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" :modding

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